Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th May 2012 07:47 UTC
Legal "ACTA is effectively dead, the European Commissioner for the Digital Agenda admitted Friday. An official spokesman said the 'political reality' was the fight was over. Neelie Kroes, speaking at a conference in Berlin, told delegates: 'We have recently seen how many thousands of people are willing to protest against rules which they see as constraining the openness and innovation of the Internet. This is a strong new political voice. And as a force for openness, I welcome it, even if I do not always agree with everything it says on every subject. 'We are now likely to be in a world without SOPA and without ACTA.'" That's how we roll, web.
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Comment by tuma324
by tuma324 on Mon 7th May 2012 08:28 UTC
tuma324
Member since:
2010-04-09

Good riddance.

Reply Score: 12

B. Janssen
Member since:
2006-10-11

It can still be back, and it will. What I find most disturbing about this is that the politicians still seem to think this is only about civil liberties vs. intellectual property enforcement.

Most people I know who are upset about ACTA are upset because of the *way* ACTA was divised --- in clandestine, secret meetings. The drafting commission was well aware that the rules and regulations drafted in ACTA would upset the people and they thought sneaking it past the electorate is their best shot of getting it through. It so clearly shows who's servants these "public servants" really are.

EDIT: formatting

Edited 2012-05-07 08:30 UTC

Reply Score: 17

Wimps
by butters on Mon 7th May 2012 13:04 UTC
butters
Member since:
2005-07-08

I'm against Internet censorship as much as anybody, but we're just a loud minority of little people who actually care enough about this issue to raise our squeaky little voices about it.

Our dear leaders could have rammed through SOPA and ACTA and there would have been no consequences but hand-wringing and pity parties.

Boo hoo, they ruined the Internet. What is there to do about it? It's not like the next election is going to turn on this issue, because it was the kind of issue that doesn't split along party lines.

The vocal minority is not always the voice of reason, and it's a little disturbing that politicians in the U.S. and EU are so spineless even when they have the benefit of political cover.

And let's not believe for a moment that they threw in the towel because they were swayed by our reasoned argument. That's never why they do anything.

Reply Score: 1

RE: Wimps
by cyrilleberger on Mon 7th May 2012 13:46 UTC in reply to "Wimps"
cyrilleberger Member since:
2006-02-01

The real reason why Neelie Kroes backed down from ACTA and declared it dead is not because people protested. It is because the European Parliament was about to shot it down. And she decided to save herself some trouble and humiliation.

Now, you might wonder why the EP opposed ACTA. The thing to consider is that the EP is a mix of high profile politicians who can't get seat in their national elections (because they follow majority rule like in France or UK), with a mix of "second class" politicians. The first ones usually don't care about the EP and don't real take part in its activity. While the second ones are usually not professional politicians, and are often closer to the preoccupations of European Citizens, and willing to think by themselves. They usually don't care so much about their reelections, since, no matter what they do in the EP, it is not going to decide their fate, people vote for the EP in function of their satisfaction of a party in national affair. So those politicians usually act very much in function of their own convictions, and rather curiously, they are very sensible to questions about Freedom and Civil rights. And that is why they opposed ACTA.

Reply Score: 8

It had been nailed there
by kwan_e on Mon 7th May 2012 14:14 UTC
kwan_e
Member since:
2007-02-18

You have to admit, it had beautiful plumage.

Reply Score: 3

Be careful of being told you've won
by Dasher42 on Mon 7th May 2012 16:10 UTC
Dasher42
Member since:
2007-04-05

The CIA has used it to disrupt groups of people, the tactic of infiltrating a group and then spreading the word, "We've won!" People don't show up to keep up the fight.

Don't stop keeping an eye out for ACTA-like bills. The people who pushed it still have the will and the resources to keep trying.

Reply Score: 7

Comment by seanc7
by seanc7 on Mon 7th May 2012 16:48 UTC
seanc7
Member since:
2012-03-26

Look at it this way, SOPA failed by CISPA was slipped in to replace it with virtually on notice about it. I expect a similar action for ACTA...

Reply Score: 7

Gullible Jones Member since:
2006-05-23

I find it hilarious that you use the phrase "goose-stepping" in a post veritably stuffed with veiled anti-Semitic rhetoric. Zionist Mafia indeed. What makes you believe this censorship lunacy has anything to do with Israel?

(NB: I do think Israel is getting pretty messed up. Calling political leftists "germs" would not fly even in the United States. But this conspiracy stuff is ridiculous.)

Reply Score: 5

Don't be so sure
by JoeBuck on Tue 8th May 2012 00:53 UTC
JoeBuck
Member since:
2006-01-11

The copyright cartel will continue to try to get its provisions enacted by inserting them into treaties and trade agreements wherever they can. It's like whack-a-mole, they will keep coming back.

Reply Score: 6

Comment by Luminair
by Luminair on Tue 8th May 2012 01:19 UTC
Luminair
Member since:
2007-03-30

of course the bad guys will keep trying to pass stuff like this every year, and they only need one good day to succeed.

but isnt there an interesting story about the EU in here? I dont know how it works, but I'm imagining the power of the EU counteracting the power of american law and lobby being exported across the ocean.

small powers with no backup more readily adopt american influence wholesale

Reply Score: 5

not dead yet
by Mellin on Tue 8th May 2012 22:20 UTC
Mellin
Member since:
2005-07-06

The EU Commission had not given up its plans to save Acta

Reply Score: 4