Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 31st May 2012 21:25 UTC
Windows The Windows 8 release Preview has been released, so go out and get it, test it, and wax lyrically, or complain loudly. I'm installing it as we speak, so no word, thoughts, or impressions from me yet. Like it or hate it, at least have fun, folks.
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by ronaldst on Thu 31st May 2012 21:29 UTC
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Waste of plastic.
by UltraZelda64 on Thu 31st May 2012 21:42 UTC
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I tried out the Windows 8 Consumer Preview. Hated it. I'll save the plastic and money for something actually worth burning to disc. I tried to force myself to get used to it for a couple hours before nuking it from orbit with an openSUSE installation DVD. Really... I'd be better off playing around with DOS than Windows 8. :|

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RE: Waste of plastic.
by tomcat on Thu 31st May 2012 23:39 UTC in reply to "Waste of plastic."
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2006-01-06

I tried out the Windows 8 Consumer Preview. Hated it. I'll save the plastic and money for something actually worth burning to disc. I tried to force myself to get used to it for a couple hours before nuking it from orbit with an openSUSE installation DVD. Really... I'd be better off playing around with DOS than Windows 8. :|


I'm shocked to hear you're going back to Linux. Really.

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RE: Waste of plastic.
by BluenoseJake on Thu 31st May 2012 23:47 UTC in reply to "Waste of plastic."
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A couple of hours? That's really giving it the old college try.

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v RE: Waste of plastic.
by WereCatf on Fri 1st Jun 2012 00:17 UTC in reply to "Waste of plastic."
I look forward
by Nelson on Thu 31st May 2012 22:22 UTC
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to your review Thom. I'll be interested to see if this release made things better in your book.

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RE: I look forward
by ebasconp on Thu 31st May 2012 22:38 UTC in reply to "I look forward"
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2006-05-09

I go for this too Thom! ;)

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Darn
by Dekonega on Thu 31st May 2012 22:36 UTC
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Darn, no sleep for me tonight. Thanks Microsoft! ;-)

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Release Preview?
by dmrio on Thu 31st May 2012 23:25 UTC
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2005-08-26

I know this is not time for high expectations yet, but I've found it way too buggy for a Release Preview. A quick look around showed many inconsistencies, specially at the Metro interface.
Run, Microsoft, run!

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RE: Release Preview?
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 1st Jun 2012 08:33 UTC in reply to "Release Preview?"
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2006-12-05

How ironic. Someone mentions that a Windows 8 release is quite buggy for an official Microsoft Windows release, and he gets modded down.

Will the real Microsoft ass-kissers please stand up?

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Comment by danbuter
by danbuter on Thu 31st May 2012 23:54 UTC
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I'll be keeping my copy of Windows 7 in a sealed vault. It's going to become very valuable in a year or so.

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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Fri 1st Jun 2012 00:19 UTC
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2005-11-10

Awful.

This is forcing the consumer so far in one direction I can’t see anything else but backlash.

You can’t even install free apps without a Microsoft Account, which requires giving them your phone number and address. On ARM platforms, you will not be able to install apps any other way than through the store. I cannot believe that this practice can be legal.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by windywoo on Fri 1st Jun 2012 01:16 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
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Why would it be illegal? Apple do this already.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by Nelson on Fri 1st Jun 2012 01:26 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Wrong.
To create a Microsoft Account you need:

- Alternative email address
- Secret question
- Zipcode
- Birthdate

Hardly top secret stuff.

Of course, I'm sure you'll be happy to point me to the comment where you criticize Apple for requiring an iTunes account to download apps, or Android for requiring a Google Account to download apps.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Fri 1st Jun 2012 01:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
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I was sticking on topic. Apple are no less worse.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by marcp on Fri 1st Jun 2012 05:58 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
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2007-11-23

That's what you "get" when you choose to use closed platform ... In a sense Windows 8 and iOS/OSX can help FLOSS word to spread out.
People may be so frustrated they would be more eager to try something else. However, it may just make them to install Windows XP/7 as well, so we'll see.

For me it's clear I will continue avoiding closed sourced, walled gardens for as long as I will be able to.

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Toy
by Lorin on Fri 1st Jun 2012 05:44 UTC
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If I want a toy OS, I'll buy an Apple.

But as I have to do real engineering work I will use something else that is not Windows 8

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RE: Toy
by daedalus on Fri 1st Jun 2012 08:49 UTC in reply to "Toy"
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2011-01-14

It's unfortunate that the "real engineering" software isn't released on other platforms. I'd love to use OS X or Linux in work, but my hands are tied due to the software.

I don't see what the OS itself has to do with engineering applications though - it's the software (or lack of) that's the problem there.

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RE: Toy
by tomcat on Sat 2nd Jun 2012 00:58 UTC in reply to "Toy"
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2006-01-06

If I want a toy OS, I'll buy an Apple.

But as I have to do real engineering work I will use something else that is not Windows 8



"Oooooooooh ... it's a YOOOONIX systemmmm...." LOL. Real engineering work ... Seriously, get over yourself ...

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Comment by marcp
by marcp on Fri 1st Jun 2012 05:51 UTC
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It freezes with this "Windows" word on a booting screen. Not much of a fun, although this is what I have expected.

EDIT: and so it CRASHED. Almost as usual I could say ...
well, have fun, folks! [if "fun" is the right word in this case ;) ]

Edited 2012-06-01 05:53 UTC

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Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Fri 1st Jun 2012 14:11 UTC
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What I'd love to know is the about any of the under the hood changes being made at the lowest level - in Windows 7 for example GDI received some major TLC when it came to scalability, has that been taken a step further? with the improved memory and power manager - have some/all of the win32 API's had some tweaking to take advantage of those under the hood changes - I assume deep down in the kernel such as a move to a more tickless kernel etc. For me, Windows 8 looks perfectly ok as it is but my interest is more in the under the hood improvements given that they've done a pretty good job as far as I see in regards to user interface consistency (the new theme plus changes that will appear in RTM later).

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Still doesn't boot
by jessesmith on Fri 1st Jun 2012 14:17 UTC
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I've tried each of the previews so far in the Win8 series. None of them boot on my hardware that runs Win7, most Linux distros and FreeBSD. Even in the latest VirtualBox, which has guest settings specifically for Windows 8, it won't boot. Makes my choice of whether to purchase Win8 or not an easy one.

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Confuzzled
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 1st Jun 2012 22:17 UTC
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So, how on god's sweet earth do you add a shortcut to a desktop app to Metro that doesn't use a regular installer (but rather something you just download & run)?

I'm so confuzzled.

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RE: Confuzzled
by Nelson on Sat 2nd Jun 2012 00:15 UTC in reply to "Confuzzled"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Navigate to the folder it's located in with Explorer, right click, and "Pin to Start".

You can do it for arbitrary programs, documents, and folders.

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Unbelievable
by gregthecanuck on Sat 2nd Jun 2012 08:36 UTC
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2006-05-30

Most commenters here just don't get it.

This sounds like the poo-poo comments when the first iPhones and iPads came out.

Microsoft is going to sell a ton of Windows 8 systems, whether the geeks here like it or not.

This is aimed at consumers who need something dumbed-down and simple to use for common everyday tasks. Microsoft does indeed get it. They have spent millions upon millions on focus groups, feedback forums, etc... to get a good idea of what they are doing right and wrong.

Most of you here are power users and don't make up much of a market at all.

Perhaps W8.1 will be out in a year and that will likely appeal more to the power user crowd but for now Microsoft needs to move VOLUME of product to get the whole ecosystem moving.

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Internet Explorer Tabs
by Bustanut on Sat 2nd Jun 2012 10:54 UTC
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WTF.

Does anyone find it confusing in regard to IE:
1) Have right click bring up a context menu; and/or,
2) right click in white space to bring up any open tabs plus the address bar.

I have found myself moving to the mouse to the top of the page before right clicking expecting the tab bar at the top to appear, but if doesn't because I haven't right clicked.

Why not just allow the mouse moved to the top bring up the tabs and address bar instead of right click *shrug*

Try this:

Open, grab and drag the settings menu to the left hand side of the screen and then open IE which will appear to the right of settings - I dig this for easy access.

However, if you try to swap back and forth expanding either window you have to double click on the thin horizontal separator bar between the two windows. Why not just double click on one side or the other to expand?

What I don't get is that it could be really usable system without ever needing to go back to the desktop app, but currently MS's mouse functionality reminds me of when Mr Burns ran into the crippled irishman. several times.

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RE: Internet Explorer Tabs
by Nelson on Sat 2nd Jun 2012 20:02 UTC in reply to "Internet Explorer Tabs"
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2005-11-29

You can use WinKey+Z to bring up the appbar too, if you find yourself in a situation where Right Click is ambiguous.

I'm not a fan of how app bars are summoned by Mouse+Kb either.

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RE[2]: Internet Explorer Tabs
by Bustanut on Sat 2nd Jun 2012 23:48 UTC in reply to "RE: Internet Explorer Tabs"
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I did not know that. Cheers!

It reminds me a bit of gnome 3 in that you are reliant on the mouse and keyboard to have full control over the ui not just copy paste etc. MS could provide a mouse driven interface better than what they have, but it seems lacking.

I guess the touchpad once done properly (e.g with it's own little screen to be ostentatious, link a stylus to the touchpad to write on) will take over from the mouse as the mouse from the joystick :/

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RE[3]: Internet Explorer Tabs
by Nelson on Sun 3rd Jun 2012 00:01 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Internet Explorer Tabs"
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2005-11-29

http://www.pcworld.com/article/251022/windows_8_consumer_preview_ke...

Here are a list of Windows 8 shortcuts. Once I get the hang of them, they made my Metro experience much more enjoyable, especially with regards to multitasking.

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"Execute Disable Bit" is a requirement!!!
by tomchr on Sat 2nd Jun 2012 21:35 UTC
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2009-02-01

Microsoft lowered the minimum requirements for Windows 8, BUT I've just read that must have a CPU with "Execute Disable Bit" ability. If not, Windows 8 doesn't support your CPU!!

I just happen to have two T42 laptops with Pentium M 745 Dothans, which I was hoping to use Windows 8 on. Guess, I will be skipping Windows 8 altogether, if this annoying requirement can't be circumvented.

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A nightmare? I hope so
by Anonymous Penguin on Sun 3rd Jun 2012 21:48 UTC
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2005-07-06

Worst crap I have ever seen. Somebody tell me this is a nightmare. And no, Mountain Lion isn't going to be anything like that. Is this Orwell's 1984?
After this Linux will be pure gold.

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