Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 25th Jun 2012 21:23 UTC
Google Gizmodo Australia claims to have a training document which details the rumoured Google Nexus tablet. It's built by Asus, 7", 1280x800, 1.3Ghz Tegra 3 processor, 1GB of RAM, GeForce '12-core' GPU (whatever the heck that means). The 8GB variant will be $199, the 16GB one $299. It looks quite decent, and will run Android 4.1 Jelly Bean. Interestingly, the document also states that going forward, Google will take care of Android updates directly - however, it's not made clear if that's for this device only, or for all Android devices. The "going forward" bit would suggest all devices, but as much as I hope so, it seems unlikely.
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"Nexus 7"?
by zima on Mon 25th Jun 2012 21:38 UTC
zima
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2005-07-06

So... where are Nexus 6 models, and how can I get one?

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RE: "Nexus 7"?
by galvanash on Mon 25th Jun 2012 21:45 UTC in reply to ""Nexus 7"?"
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2006-01-25

You can't get a Nexus 6. They were buggy as hell and cause so much grief Google hunted them all down and "retired" them ;)

Edited 2012-06-25 21:48 UTC

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RE[2]: "Nexus 7"?
by zima on Tue 26th Jun 2012 11:48 UTC in reply to "RE: "Nexus 7"?"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

What do you mean, "buggy"?

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RE: "Nexus 7"?
by AnythingButVista on Tue 26th Jun 2012 13:45 UTC in reply to ""Nexus 7"?"
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2008-08-27

There is no such thing as a Nexus 6. It's called Nexus 7 because it has a 7-inch screen.

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RE[2]: "Nexus 7"?
by zima on Thu 28th Jun 2012 10:10 UTC in reply to "RE: "Nexus 7"?"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I guess that's a whoosh?

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Not price competitive
by Hussein on Mon 25th Jun 2012 22:08 UTC
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2008-11-22

Neither CPU nor GPU put it ahead of last year's iPad. It major selling point is 7" for those who want that size and Google-branding which means guaranteed updates, but based on price alone I can see people paying the extra $100 and getting a 16GB iPad for $399.

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RE: Not price competitive
by libray on Tue 26th Jun 2012 00:24 UTC in reply to "Not price competitive"
libray Member since:
2005-08-27

New IPads start at $499, but I know what you mean. Getting last years...
The 1GB in a 7 inch tablet was also already done last year by the Playbook.

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RE: Not price competitive
by Neolander on Tue 26th Jun 2012 03:21 UTC in reply to "Not price competitive"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

I don't know yet if this thing has an SD card slot. But if there was one, can you explain me why one would care about ridiculously overpriced internal storage instead of opting for cheaper and upgradeable external storage like on digital cameras ?

I mean, $100 for 8GB of low-quality flash storage sounds ridiculous to me. Pen drives of that capacity costed much less than that two years ago, and the market moves fast...

Edited 2012-06-26 03:25 UTC

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RE[2]: Not price competitive
by Flatland_Spider on Tue 26th Jun 2012 12:42 UTC in reply to "RE: Not price competitive"
Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

I'm betting it won't since none of the Nexus phones have SD card slots.

As for why they don't make removable storage the "/home" partition for user data and applications, I have no idea. I can only speculate that the Android team expected better integration with Google then what's going on now.

The 8GB probably isn't where most of the cost is. That was probably a couple of dollars. Besides, you're supposed to use the Google cloud. ;)

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RE[2]: Not price competitive
by phoenix on Tue 26th Jun 2012 16:58 UTC in reply to "RE: Not price competitive"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

If it's a full-sized SD slot, that would be nice. Up to 16 GB cards are now under $1/GB up here, and the 32+ GB cards are hovering around $2/GB.

MicroSD cards are approx. double that right now (8 GB for just under $20 after taxes).

Obviously, these aren't the fastest SD cards around, but they aren't the crappiest either. Price goes up with speed requirements.

(Prices in CDN$.)

Absolutely amazes me that Apple can charge a $100 US premium for 8 GB of extra storage.

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RE: Not price competitive
by nej_simon on Tue 26th Jun 2012 07:23 UTC in reply to "Not price competitive"
nej_simon Member since:
2011-02-11

Neither CPU nor GPU put it ahead of last year's iPad...


Actually the tegra 3 has a faster CPU than Apple's A5X, while the A5X has a faster GPU.

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RE[2]: Not price competitive
by phoenix on Wed 27th Jun 2012 08:36 UTC in reply to "RE: Not price competitive"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

The A5X also has a lot more memory bandwidth than the Tegras, all of which are limited to a single 32-bit memory channel. ;) For all the graphics know-how that Nvidia has, they are really limiting/hampering/hobbling their mobile graphics solutions. Even at 1.6 GHz, with DDR3-1066 memory, the Tegra3 GPU is slow. ;) Just check out the benchmarks for the Asus Transformer Infinity (1900x1200 resolution @ 10.1") at anandtech.com. PowerVR GPUs runs circles around the Tegras.

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Sorry
by Elv13 on Mon 25th Jun 2012 22:17 UTC
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2006-06-12

> or for all Android devices.

It is technically impossible. Microsoft force some standard technologies for use with WindowsRT, but Google does not for Android. So, given the fact that Linux modules/drivers are not backward/forward compatible, there is no way they could support all devices at once.

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Comment by stabbyjones
by stabbyjones on Mon 25th Jun 2012 22:38 UTC
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2008-04-15

Google already handles Nexus software updates, that's the point of getting a Nexus.

I'm buying this as soon as they're out.

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RE: Comment by stabbyjones
by gan17 on Tue 26th Jun 2012 01:13 UTC in reply to "Comment by stabbyjones"
gan17 Member since:
2008-06-03

Google already handles Nexus software updates, that's the point of getting a Nexus.


I'm not sure if that's 100% true. With the last Galaxy Nexus, there seemed to be a handsets running different firmware. Search for "yakju" over at the XDA forums.

Some models got updates straight from Google, while others got them from Samsung, which were often slower. Samsung said that it was done at the request of carriers. I recall a few threads at various Android forums dedicated to owners users with the yakju-alternative firmware flash back to yakju-stock. Not sure about prior Nexus devices though.

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RE[2]: Comment by stabbyjones
by Elv13 on Tue 26th Jun 2012 01:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by stabbyjones"
Elv13 Member since:
2006-06-12

Same for the N1 and NS. It took 18 months before I got 2.3 and when I did, it bricked my N1. I have to use a few tricks to flash cyanogen as it would not boot anymore. I then installed 4.0.3, something that even google does not support, so if you want updates, Nexus or not, do it yourself.

Edited 2012-06-26 01:29 UTC

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article states $249 for 16GB
by FunkyELF on Tue 26th Jun 2012 12:44 UTC
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2006-07-26

Makes a huge difference.... thats only a 25% price increase rather than a 50%

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Comment by marcp
by marcp on Tue 26th Jun 2012 18:31 UTC
marcp
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2007-11-23

Buying device from one of the biggest spies of all times. Yeah, sounds like an AWESOME IDEA!

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RE: Comment by marcp
by aorth on Wed 27th Jun 2012 16:37 UTC in reply to "Comment by marcp"
aorth Member since:
2011-10-26

True... but someone who thinks Google is the biggest spy of all time is likely to know that Google devices are open, and you can do whatever you please with them. ;)

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Saw the presentation
by Drunkula on Wed 27th Jun 2012 17:59 UTC
Drunkula
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2009-09-03

Me want!

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