Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 16th Aug 2012 16:41 UTC
Amiga & AROS AmigaOS 4.1 update 5 has been released. It's a bug-fix release, but does contain new features as well. For instance, Amiga 68K emulation has been improved, and a full Workbench 3.1 installation is now included, as well as several authentic Amiga ROMs and Workbench files. Available for free for eligible platforms, including SAM devices.
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By the way...
by mpxlbs on Thu 16th Aug 2012 21:09 UTC
mpxlbs
Member since:
2009-01-25

I just got the Amiga 600, no modifications. I've just bought the CF adapter with the AmigaOS Install disk from AmigaKit and Vesalia, along with the RGB cable and the Kickstart ROM for the 600. Not to sidetrack too far, but heres my question.


I was wondering where I could buy the Workbench 3.1 disks legitimately by a retailer, or if I have any other options (reason I'm asking is because I want to support the community, and not just get some "maybe" working/copied disks from ebay.
What are my options? I saw that AmigaOS comes with the installed disks, but that's on CD-Rom. I need the disks, as I want to do it without reformatting and repartitioning the drive through WinUAE, + I want the original disks.

You seem to know your way around the amiga community since OSNews is one of the few tech sites that writes about amiga software Thom. Do you know?

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RE: By the way...
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 16th Aug 2012 21:40 UTC in reply to "By the way..."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I think Amiga Forever is the way to go, it's by Cloanto.

http://www.amigaforever.com/

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RE[2]: By the way...
by mpxlbs on Thu 16th Aug 2012 21:49 UTC in reply to "RE: By the way..."
mpxlbs Member since:
2009-01-25

Hey Thom, thanks for replying.

I found the feedback form and will ask them there if they sell the disks seperately, already on DD's.

Edited 2012-08-16 21:51 UTC

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RE[3]: By the way...
by raddude9 on Fri 17th Aug 2012 17:53 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: By the way..."
raddude9 Member since:
2009-07-15

You get .adf images of the disks on the Amaga Forever CD, with a pc you can copy them to your compact flash card and then burn them on the Amiga.

Or if you're looking to buy the Real original disks, try looking through Amibay, it's eBay for retro computers:
http://www.amibay.com/

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RE[2]: By the way...
by bassbeast on Fri 17th Aug 2012 04:51 UTC in reply to "RE: By the way..."
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

But is that legal? I thought the whole problem was Amiga is in this legal limbo, with half a dozen claiming ownership. I know someone ended up with the Commodore logo but last I heard Amiga was still in legal purgatory, has that changed?

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RE[3]: By the way...
by kurkosdr on Fri 17th Aug 2012 20:36 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: By the way..."
kurkosdr Member since:
2011-04-11

Wikipefia has documented the AmigaOS legal limbo rather nicely. It was between Amiga Inc (owner) and Hyperion Entertainment (contractor). Haage wasn't involved, they were just another contractor.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_AmigaOS_4_dispute#sec...

The end result was that Hyperion reached an agreement with Amiga Inc to develop Amiga OS, but nobody knows what Amiga Inc got as an exchange).

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RE: By the way...
by sagum on Thu 16th Aug 2012 23:17 UTC in reply to "By the way..."
sagum Member since:
2006-01-23

From what I remember, you need to write the ADF files to a floppy disk. Your A600 has enough memory to keep a full ADF image in the ramdisk, write it to df0: and you should be golden.

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RE: By the way...
by MORB on Fri 17th Aug 2012 09:23 UTC in reply to "By the way..."
MORB Member since:
2005-07-06

Just download them somewhere, it's not like that old crap has any commercial potential anymore.

Unless you are really worried about wronging the handful of dumb people who have any legal claim to the rights for those things...

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RE[2]: By the way...
by judgen on Fri 17th Aug 2012 12:13 UTC in reply to "RE: By the way..."
judgen Member since:
2006-07-12

I do not think you understand, or you are willfully ignorant. Haage owns the amiga os 3* outright and all previous versions by purchase from commodore. They are literally waiting for microsoft, google and apple to reach the golden limit of infringements to the IP. No they did not buy the development rights they bought the OS. And with it all the software patents that came with it.
If they went now, some would be invalidated by previous works, and the turnout would not be as great. I do not know what Haage considers golden, but they WILL hunt down those patents eventually. They are still the owners of accelerated animation patents that could sink any relevant company atm. The only way to win against that is to prove that it was the hardware that did all of it and the amigaos had nothing to do with it.

We are looking at either a buyout or license fee for those patents.

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RE[3]: By the way...
by Soulbender on Fri 17th Aug 2012 13:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: By the way..."
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Hurrah! The Amiga legacy: patent trolling.

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RE[3]: By the way...
by MORB on Fri 17th Aug 2012 15:00 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: By the way..."
MORB Member since:
2005-07-06

lmao

Some schmuck in germany is going to singlehandedly patent troll microsoft, apple and google using a handful of ancient amiga patents. Right.

At best if those patent have any value he'll sell those to an existing patent troll company. Either way it has nothing to do with the fact that nobody should really care about pirating amiga roms and os.

Edited 2012-08-17 15:01 UTC

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RE[4]: By the way...
by mpxlbs on Fri 17th Aug 2012 15:05 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: By the way..."
mpxlbs Member since:
2009-01-25

But some people do care about buying the software, and if I think I should, that shouldn't be a problem with you. Two wrongs don't make a right, and in my case, I want to do what's right for me. Please don't tell others what they should not care about or what they should care about in this matter. As for me, I don't care about the politics the same way that you and others might do.

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RE[2]: By the way...
by mpxlbs on Fri 17th Aug 2012 15:00 UTC in reply to "RE: By the way..."
mpxlbs Member since:
2009-01-25

It's not about being "worried" about "wronging". Some people feel content downloading software that they use, abandonware or warez. I feel content buying it, and supporting the retailers. It has nothing to do with what I could do, or could not do. I'm very well aware of my other options using WinUAE and a downloaded ADF file. That's not the option I want to use. I want to buy the software. If you don't want to buy it and don't understand why I'd want to buy it, or why I should by it... that's fine by me

Now, you might not understand me or that idea, and that's not important to either of us. I just want to be pointed in the right direction.

Edited 2012-08-17 15:01 UTC

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RE[3]: By the way...
by vault on Sat 18th Aug 2012 20:59 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: By the way..."
vault Member since:
2005-09-15

I respect your stance, but be mindful that by paying for software (especially old software) you're not always giving money to people who developed it or deserve it. In many cases, the original developer doesn't get a penny, as they may no longer exist. Even worse, the publisher you support might have contributed to said developer's demise.

Just think about that, please.

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RE[4]: By the way...
by mpxlbs on Sat 18th Aug 2012 22:10 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: By the way..."
mpxlbs Member since:
2009-01-25

Thank you. You're probably right in what you're saying and after reading some of it, it makes sense. I'll check out amibay.

I'm quite new to the Amiga scene, although I've been using Amigas before, I've never owned one personally until now.

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RE: By the way...
by leech on Sun 19th Aug 2012 17:12 UTC in reply to "By the way..."
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

I would head on over to amiga.org or amigaworld.net, or http://eab.abime.net/ Those are places I go to look up info for my A4000.

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