Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 14th Sep 2012 21:20 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "'We are working on this,' Ms. Whitman told Fox Business Network in an interview. 'We have to ultimately offer a smartphone because in many countries of the world that would be your first computing device... We are a computing company.'" On the same day the Pre 2 a reader is loaning me arrives in the mail. This is just cruel. Update: "HP Bender Android smartphone appears in benchmark details". Eh.
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No you don´t!
by Gestahlt on Fri 14th Sep 2012 21:35 UTC
Gestahlt
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2011-10-17

HP already offered Smartphones and i was the accidental owner of 2 (HP iPAQ or whatever that crap was called, i am so happy to have em forgotten...)

I got them from my company as business phones.. and they were outright awful. They were loaded with WinCE or Mobile 6 or whatever that mobile spawn called itself and it was horrible. On the first iPAQ (It had small display and a regular phone keyboard) the usability was outright horrible, the display was horrible, battery drain was horriblle. Oh and it crashed very often... and guess what.. the one with the bigger screen and touch was no better.

They should focus on promoting on what they have and make it better.
HP did a lot of f*ck ups lately in the technical department and they really need to think about what they try to be. Business class printers? Yeah, with their new Firmware based on WinCE and lot of crashes and cheap plastic.. way to go and show off quality.
Servers? Wahaha, yeah, lets release the new G(x) series and have them buggy as hell.
Oh have i mentioned their great Slate 2 Tablets? I would go into a corner and be ashamed of branding them HP...


I hate that kind of attitude. They want to do new markets but they have to fix their home first before they do the garden.

HP is in my opinion in a mess in every thinkable way. They behave like a headless chicken. Their need to get their priorities sorted out first and then focus on that instead of being everywhere. They had that right but they wasted it by cutting edges on the wrong corners.

I wish Meg good luck with that and i hope she will be able to fix this mess called HP.

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Comment by fretinator
by fretinator on Fri 14th Sep 2012 21:41 UTC
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2005-07-06

What a shame - everybody is copying the Palm (ever seen rows and columns of icons you lauch by touching them), and it lays on the dust heap.

Palm, Palm, wherefore are thou Palm??

I don't think WebOS has much of a chance of resurrecting from the hobby world. I agree that they will most likely sell an HP branded Windows 8 phone. HP made some very sweet Windows Mobile devices in the past - IPAQ 8 anyone?

Oops! I guess the person above me no likey IPAQ. Anyone else have a better experience? They also made the Journada - oh and the HP 200LX, they always seemed pretty nice.

Edited 2012-09-14 21:45 UTC

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RE: Comment by fretinator
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 14th Sep 2012 22:05 UTC in reply to "Comment by fretinator"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Loved my iPaq to death. Completely used it up. One of my favourite devices of all time.

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RE[2]: Comment by fretinator
by Kochise on Sat 15th Sep 2012 07:32 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by fretinator"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

Dell AXIM X51V vs. HP iPAQ 240 : FIGHT !

Kochise

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RE[2]: Comment by fretinator
by l3v1 on Sun 16th Sep 2012 21:05 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by fretinator"
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

Loved my iPaq to death. Completely used it up. One of my favourite devices of all time.


You know what? I still have an iPaq 514 - which I only use as a backup alarm clock sometimes ;) - and I really liked it when I got it (quite a while ago). I was using it for almost 2 years before I switched from it. Some iPAQs were really nice. Man, I feel old.

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RE: Comment by fretinator
by Mark0 on Sun 16th Sep 2012 11:47 UTC in reply to "Comment by fretinator"
Mark0 Member since:
2005-08-11

The HP200LX was a marvelous machine. Good display, nice keyboard, extreme portability, very easy to develop fore - just about any DOS dev-chain was OK. And about 2 weeks of battery life on 2 AA NiMH.

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Meh
by WorknMan on Sat 15th Sep 2012 01:48 UTC
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2005-11-13

Yet another Android phone launching with ice cream sandwich. This thing is already a fail before it's even released.

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RE: Meh
by some1 on Sat 15th Sep 2012 02:26 UTC in reply to "Meh"
some1 Member since:
2010-10-05

Launching? This is a rumor about a prototype.

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RE: Meh
by dsmogor on Sat 15th Sep 2012 12:27 UTC in reply to "Meh"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

Why so if they ported webos gui to Android and pushed it on some decent HW they could give Samsung run for its money.
Innovation is good but duplicating APIs for the sake of it frequebtly bring more harm than good. Besides adding WEB os api support on top of Android flinger is not inconcievable.
From basic usage and multitasking (not mentioning linux base) boh are badically compatible.

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RE[2]: Meh
by WorknMan on Sat 15th Sep 2012 20:16 UTC in reply to "RE: Meh"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Why so if they ported webos gui to Android and pushed it on some decent HW they could give Samsung run for its money.


Because if they fork the hell out of Android, whatever version of the OS it comes with is probably going to be what it runs for the rest of its life.

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Comment by Soulbender
by Soulbender on Sat 15th Sep 2012 02:18 UTC
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2005-08-18



Edited 2012-09-15 02:19 UTC

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Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Sat 15th Sep 2012 02:33 UTC
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RE: Comment by MOS6510
by zima on Sat 15th Sep 2012 15:05 UTC in reply to "Comment by MOS6510"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm surprised you don't welcome such name with open hands - while cautiously also hoping that the phone will have some 6502-family CPU ;P

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Sat 15th Sep 2012 15:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

I'd buy a C64 phone!

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RE: Comment by MOS6510
by Stephen! on Sun 16th Sep 2012 15:21 UTC in reply to "Comment by MOS6510"
Stephen! Member since:
2007-11-24
Ultimate Revenge
by transami on Sat 15th Sep 2012 05:33 UTC
transami
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2006-02-28

Hahahahaha... Can't wait to root me a Nokia 920 and install webOS. The ultimate revenge!

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RE: Ultimate Revenge
by MechR on Sat 15th Sep 2012 09:38 UTC in reply to "Ultimate Revenge"
MechR Member since:
2006-01-11

Hahahahaha... Can't wait to root me a Nokia 920 and install webOS. The ultimate revenge!

I can just imagine your face while you're saying that...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7wqk97Q2k1ryc4q4o1_250.png

Edit: Curses, I guess image codes don't work here; oh well.

Edited 2012-09-15 09:42 UTC

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good news.
by fran on Sat 15th Sep 2012 09:42 UTC
fran
Member since:
2010-08-06

That is really nice.
I am saddened by HP financial woes and I hope/believe they can turn it around.
Why do i like HP that much. Well, HP has his own research lab dedicated to cutting edge stuff like memsistors etc.
They have a long track record of innovation.

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This is HPs problem
by BluenoseJake on Sat 15th Sep 2012 13:51 UTC
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Member since:
2005-08-11

They have turned into a "Me Too" company, they don't come out with anything innovative anymore, they just copy other companies stuff, badly, then fill it with crapware. Even their printer division has been putting out cheap plastic crap the last few years.

They have to start taking risks, and for the right reasons, not because "Everyone else is doing it" If Apple or Dell jumped off a bridge, would HP follow?

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RE: This is HPs problem
by moondevil on Sun 16th Sep 2012 07:45 UTC in reply to "This is HPs problem"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

My first printer was a HP DeskJet 500, back in 1993, followed by a 670C and a 800 something (no longer remember the name).

Nowadays, I can care less, as their drivers install lots of crapware alongside them.

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RE[2]: This is HPs problem
by UglyKidBill on Sun 16th Sep 2012 14:48 UTC in reply to "RE: This is HPs problem"
UglyKidBill Member since:
2005-07-27

My mom's first printer was a 560, it worked for about 6, 7, maybe more, years of intensive beating... amazing.

Last month a customer bought two huge, laser, gigabite LAN capable monsters... One had to be taken to service within 20 days, the other one -I just learned- has a long known manufacturing problem on some board causing it to fail at... LAN conectivity, none the less!...

HP phones? Don´t count me in for that.

(well, maybe if it´s free *and* bundled with a Samsung S III coupon ;) )

Edited 2012-09-16 14:49 UTC

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With webOS?
by jefro on Sat 15th Sep 2012 16:57 UTC
jefro
Member since:
2007-04-13

That is what they need now.

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Get rid of marketing "gurus".
by unclefester on Sun 16th Sep 2012 04:00 UTC
unclefester
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2007-01-13

HP should have a technologist as CEO. The worst possible CEO for technology company is a former marketing executive (Whitman, Ballmer, Fiorino, Sculley etc). They don't understand technology.

Most German technology and manufacturing companies have a PhD qualified engineer or scientist as their CEO/Chairman. The CEOs of Mercedes, BMW and Volkswagen are all PhD qualified mechanical engineers.

Tim Cook is now busy destroying Apple by focusing on short term profit at the expense of long term marketshare.

Edited 2012-09-16 04:07 UTC

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RE: Get rid of marketing "gurus".
by libray on Mon 17th Sep 2012 15:06 UTC in reply to "Get rid of marketing "gurus"."
libray Member since:
2005-08-27

Volkswagen... you sure? Well that does not speak very well for them

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