Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th Nov 2012 18:41 UTC, submitted by anevilyak
BeOS & Derivatives Some good stuff from Begeistert 026, the recurring get-together for BeOS and now Haiku programmers. A lot of work is being done on the debugger, the Auckland Layout Editor (which sounds very impressive), and the Haiku port to ARM. Haiku on ARM is getting closer and closer to booting - for now it ends up in Kernel Debugging Land (a kernel panic).
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Alpha 4 release date
by benb320 on Mon 5th Nov 2012 19:25 UTC
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Just to let interested people know, Alpha 4 is scheduled to be released on November 14th!

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RE: Alpha 4 release date
by anevilyak on Mon 5th Nov 2012 20:39 UTC in reply to "Alpha 4 release date"
anevilyak Member since:
2005-09-14

Actually it's November 12th.

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RE[2]: Alpha 4 release date
by adinas on Tue 6th Nov 2012 08:37 UTC in reply to "RE: Alpha 4 release date"
adinas Member since:
2005-08-17

What year?

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RE[2]: Alpha 4 release date
by benb320 on Tue 6th Nov 2012 17:49 UTC in reply to "RE: Alpha 4 release date"
benb320 Member since:
2010-02-23

Even better!

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What happened?
by Narishma on Mon 5th Nov 2012 19:29 UTC
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2005-07-06

So, what happened to this project? There was an alpha release a year or two ago, and then nothing. At the time I tried it on my netbook, it worked fine for the most part but was useless for me because it didn't support WPA wifi.

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RE: What happened?
by umccullough on Mon 5th Nov 2012 19:36 UTC in reply to "What happened?"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

So, what happened to this project? There was an alpha release a year or two ago, and then nothing. At the time I tried it on my netbook, it worked fine for the most part but was useless for me because it didn't support WPA wifi.


Clearly, you simply didn't follow the project.

There have been 3 alpha releases thus far and WPA support has been enabled by default in the nightly images for at least a year now I think.

Just because you didn't read about it on OSNews doesn't mean there hasn't been progress...

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RE[2]: What happened?
by 4nntt on Mon 5th Nov 2012 20:36 UTC in reply to "RE: What happened?"
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2009-02-12

"Just because you didn't read about it on OSNews doesn't mean there hasn't been progress..."

How sad is that. ;)

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RE[3]: What happened?
by smashIt on Mon 5th Nov 2012 20:54 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: What happened?"
smashIt Member since:
2005-07-06

"Just because you didn't read about it on OSNews doesn't mean there hasn't been progress..."

How sad is that. ;)


http://www.osnews.com/story/22156/In_the_Round_Haiku_Alpha_Released
http://www.osnews.com/story/23271/Haiku_R1_Alpha_2_Released
http://www.osnews.com/story/24864/Haiku_Alpha_3_Released

don't think thom missed one ;)

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RE[4]: What happened?
by Narishma on Mon 5th Nov 2012 20:58 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: What happened?"
Narishma Member since:
2005-07-06

That last one, the alpha 3, is the one I tried. As I said, not much happened since then (more than a year ago) in terms of releases.

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RE[5]: What happened?
by umccullough on Mon 5th Nov 2012 23:02 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: What happened?"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

That last one, the alpha 3, is the one I tried. As I said, not much happened since then (more than a year ago) in terms of releases.


Yes, it's unfortunate that Haiku only prepares a new alpha release approximately once a year - but there are nightly builds released with new features and bug fixes almost every day.

If you're looking to complain about the length of time between "stable" alpha releases, then I really can't argue with your sentiments.

Perhaps if there were more people helping to develop and organize a release, we could do them more often (I'd be satisfied with 6 month cycles).

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RE[5]: What happened?
by Morgan on Tue 6th Nov 2012 11:50 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: What happened?"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

All the real fun in Haiku can be had with the nightly updates. I've gone from a mostly not working netbook on Alpha 3 to the same netbook fully supported under various nightlies. You just have to read the release notes to figure out where you want to start from.

For me, it was the point they added WPA support soon after the Alpha 3 release. Barring one minor hiccup, I had nothing but improved performance and support when testing nightlies about once a month on that device.

I'm seriously looking forward to a working RPi install; I know that's a long time coming but I have always been patient with Haiku. ;)

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RE[4]: What happened?
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 5th Nov 2012 22:00 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: What happened?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

don't think thom missed one ;)


I was about to say.

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RE[5]: What happened?
by umccullough on Mon 5th Nov 2012 23:00 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: What happened?"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

"don't think thom missed one ;)


I was about to say.
"

I didn't mean the alphas per-se, I meant the various progress made.

And to be fair, you usually catch all the important bits ;)

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3.14159265
by transputer_guy on Mon 5th Nov 2012 19:30 UTC
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2005-07-08

Well I hope it eventually runs on my Raspberry Pi which arrived today which will go back to the US when I return. Should make an excellent platform for Haiku. Not so keen on the Raspbian yet, lots of learning to do.

UK stores like Maplin only want chipped and pin credit cards in person, or regular cards over the phone with UK shipping, no shipping to the US.

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RE: 3.14159265
by Morgan on Tue 6th Nov 2012 11:45 UTC in reply to "3.14159265"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

There's more than just Raspbian (which I've found to be a tad unstable). There are at least two XBMC flavors for it, though there seems to be some contention between the two groups. Arch Linux is very solid on the Pi, and much faster than anything else. Bodhi Linux also released an image for it; I haven't tested it yet but I've heard good things.

Outside of GNU/Linux, there is the RiscOS port that was reported on here not long ago, as well as some bare metal OS coding examples if you're really deep into that stuff.

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v Comment by progormre
by progormre on Mon 5th Nov 2012 20:21 UTC
RE: Comment by progormre
by jayrulez on Mon 5th Nov 2012 20:49 UTC in reply to "Comment by progormre"
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RE: Comment by progormre
by drcouzelis on Mon 5th Nov 2012 23:16 UTC in reply to "Comment by progormre"
drcouzelis Member since:
2010-01-11

I apologize for the off topic comment, but I really like your avatar. ;)

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RE: Comment by progormre
by Morgan on Tue 6th Nov 2012 12:03 UTC in reply to "Comment by progormre"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I own hard copies of the BeOS Bible and Advanced Be Topics, and the BeBook in ebook format. And I'm not even a programmer. Electronic versions of the above are available from free to nominal cost all over the 'net, as are a multitude of free tutorials and examples. You haven't looked hard enough*.


*And by "haven't looked hard enough" I mean you obviously never heard of this really nifty site called Google.

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RE[2]: Comment by progormre
by smashIt on Tue 6th Nov 2012 16:27 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by progormre"
smashIt Member since:
2005-07-06

I own hard copies of the BeOS Bible and Advanced Be Topics, and the BeBook in ebook format.


you are missing one very important book in your collection:
http://oreilly.com/openbook/beosprog/book/index.html

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RE[3]: Comment by progormre
by Morgan on Tue 6th Nov 2012 20:28 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by progormre"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Well as I said I'm not a programmer. ;) Thanks for the link though!

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RE[2]: Comment by progormre
by Tuishimi on Tue 6th Nov 2012 20:53 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by progormre"
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2005-07-06

The BeOS Bible is wonderful. I have a copy here too...

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Missed :(
by moondevil on Tue 6th Nov 2012 07:36 UTC
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2005-07-08

Düsseldorf is not far from where I live, and I missed the event. ;)

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Comment by jigzat
by jigzat on Wed 7th Nov 2012 01:59 UTC
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2008-10-30

OMG, how come I didn't see this news on the official website? I wish at least I could run it from an USB on my iMac

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