Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 28th Jan 2013 22:32 UTC
Apple Apple has released iOS 6.1 - it's not a huge release so you probably won't notice much. What is interesting, however, is that Apple has unveiled that after just five months, 300 million iOS devices have been updated to or run iOS 6 - about 60% of all iOS devices ever sold. Google can learn a lot from this, since we're 14 months down the line, and Ice Cream Sandwich is only on about 40% of Android devices. Like I said, trainwreck in slowmotion.
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Reality call for Thom
by reduz on Mon 28th Jan 2013 22:49 UTC
reduz
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2006-02-25

"since we're 14 months down the line, and Ice Cream Sandwich is only on about 40% of Android devices"

There's something you don't seem to get about Android. There's plenty of Android value phones that sell like hotcakes, lke the Galaxy Ace or the Xperia Mini, specially in emergent economies, where also older phones that run 2.x are still being sold (like Galaxy S or Motorola Defy). They are super cheap but there is no way on earth the hardware can run ICS or JB. Because of that, those numbers on global Android OS versions are not very meaningful.

Most people that has phones that can be upgraded to ICS or JB already have upgrades available. The problem is that, even though that, the upgrade cycle for those phones can be really really long like a year at worst. So, yeah in any case, upgrade cycles can be better..

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RE: Reality call for Thom
by sanctus on Mon 28th Jan 2013 23:22 UTC in reply to "Reality call for Thom"
sanctus Member since:
2005-08-31

I'm running 4.0 on a Galaxy S, which, by the way, run smoother and faster since the upgrade. For the first time in the phone life, the GPS work nearly as expected. If it wasn't for cyanogen, I would be locked with 2.3.

The thing you don't seem to get about Android is that it's fast enough and the OS update policy is totally broken. Plus google don't have the balls admit it and then make it right. Probably, the majority of phone could be upgraded, but with all the people who shouldn't be working on customizing an OS, are at work right now holding back customer.

All reasons invoke to justify this terrible life cycle of the android OS is a building block to poor user experience.

My phone carrier now offer me a free upgrade, I'm impatiently waiting for the firefox or ubuntu phone.

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RE[2]: Reality call for Thom
by reduz on Mon 28th Jan 2013 23:39 UTC in reply to "RE: Reality call for Thom"
reduz Member since:
2006-02-25

Nope. Galaxy S is still a high end phone compared to the value phones like the Ace, Y, SL-19003 (lower specs Galaxy S for emergent markets), Xperia Mini, etc. Those can't run ICS or JB because they are not even NEON or ARMV7 phones.
Also, Galaxy S didn't get an official ICS update because it doesn't fit in the rom, you have to place part of the OS on the memory card for it to work.

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RE[3]: Reality call for Thom
by BrianH on Mon 28th Jan 2013 23:58 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Reality call for Thom"
BrianH Member since:
2005-07-06

Also, Galaxy S didn't get an official ICS update because it doesn't fit in the rom, you have to place part of the OS on the memory card for it to work.


It didn't fit in the ROM when the extra Samsung stuff was included. I have CyanogenMod 10.1 (JB 4.2) running in my Galaxy S, and it fits in the ROM just fine, with no Samsung or carrier extras needed.

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RE: Reality call for Thom
by bowkota on Mon 28th Jan 2013 23:35 UTC in reply to "Reality call for Thom"
bowkota Member since:
2011-10-12

There's plenty of Android value phones that sell like hotcakes, lke the Galaxy Ace or the Xperia Mini


You're right there but there is one problem that arises from this.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2013/01/mobile-operating-sys...

The worrying consequence is that a vast number of phones do not receive software fixes, known as patches. Worse, many cannot be patched even if the owner wants to


Even phones with the chips and memory to handle upgrades often do not receive them because of the support costs: handset-makers and carriers prefer to have consumers buy new phones than to provide technical support for old or outdated models.

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RE[2]: Reality call for Thom
by reduz on Tue 29th Jan 2013 00:30 UTC in reply to "RE: Reality call for Thom"
reduz Member since:
2006-02-25

Yes, I know this, but it's a difficult situation given manufacturers believe they need this planned obsolescence to make sure people keeps upgrading their phones every 2 years. The carriers are also a problem, but often secondary, as they usually just push the upgraded from the manufacturers nowadays.

I'm almost 100% certain that the way Google will address this is via Motorola, by ensuring people that their phones will get upgrades for a much longer timespan, despite the carriers like it or not. This is definitely a much more interesting selling point.

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RE: Reality call for Thom
by cheemosabe on Tue 29th Jan 2013 09:17 UTC in reply to "Reality call for Thom"
cheemosabe Member since:
2009-11-29

I recently installed JB (CyanogenMod) on my girlfriend's LG P500 that is ARM v6 (not the usual v7), 600 MHz, 320x480. It runs very smoothly. There is a way in hell Samsung Galaxy S can run that as well.

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btw, the 6.1 jailbreak is "ready"
by aorth on Tue 29th Jan 2013 06:10 UTC
aorth
Member since:
2011-10-26

For those iOS users who want to free themselves.

http://apple.slashdot.org/story/13/01/27/1814239/pod2g-confirms-ios...

Hopefully root means they will soon be able to SIM unlock. It's absurd to think that Apple + carriers can dictate what you can/can't do with a piece of hardware that you paid for.

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henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

Err... There's no real point in a soft Sim Unlock. The real unlcock requires a check box to be ticked off in some esoteric Apple based back office system. Else next upgrade the OS, it will be re-locked. The fact that European mobile provides are obliged to unlock their handsets after a period of ownership (UK, O2, usually 6 months after the phone release, after that you can unlock almost as soon as you receive the phone on contract for free or pay a small fee on PAYG) means that buying a Sim unlocked iPhone here is trivial. All of mine have been unlocked.

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

I think it's also absurd to willingly put yourself in a situation and then complain about it.

When you buy a locked iPhone you know it's locked. Mine isn't, because I bought it like that, because I wanted it that way. If I didn't like Apple I would have bought something else.

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mkone Member since:
2006-03-14

For those iOS users who want to free themselves.

http://apple.slashdot.org/story/13/01/27/1814239/pod2g-confirms-ios...

Hopefully root means they will soon be able to SIM unlock. It's absurd to think that Apple + carriers can dictate what you can/can't do with a piece of hardware that you paid for.


Apple will willingly sell you an unlocked iPhone. If you buy a phone on a contract, you can get it unlocked once you have finished paying for it. And Apple (and your carrier) cannot refuse to unlock it then.

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Mhm
by twitterfire on Tue 29th Jan 2013 12:31 UTC
twitterfire
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2008-09-11

Who's Apple and what is iOS?

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iPad 1 is stuck with iOS 5
by grypper on Wed 30th Jan 2013 17:30 UTC
grypper
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2013-01-30

Don't forget that users of the iPad 1 will never be able to run iOS 6.x and higher...

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