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I vaguely remember some common works between Commodore and IBM to create Presentation Manager...
Know something about such a link with the Amiga Workbench ?
Yes. IBM was in talks with Commidore to port OS/2 to a new as unnamed project, in case bDos didnt work. It did, and the Amiga came with a b based Amiga dos. IBM lost interest, and asked Commidore to pay for the port. Commidore also lost interest, as Amiga Dos was a very good OS. ( better than OS/2 and *much* better documentation. ). Later on the AmigaDos replacement project used a good optimizer on a commercial compiler to replace all the b based commands with a c replacement. Much fun was had. The c stuff proved to be faster. The point is you were right, but didn't know the backround.
The Amiga as a machine was a great piece of hardware, but the operating system was a joke if you are comparing it to OS/2.
Sure it was multitasking, but without any sort of memory protection.
Lets not forget how painful it was to do Intuition programming, which lead to the creation of MUI.
I didn't want to make a comparison between the 2 OS. I just heard about common works.
Sure, Amiga OS lacks memory protection but, considering this, it was a fast and nice to use OS.
And I don't remember it was painful to develop on/for it !
Amiga also had its own version of Rexx Arexx I think. It was pretty neat. It's tutorial tought me my first lessons in async multiprogramming.
Not to digress, but your comment reminded me of the vague Apple and Apollo deal of the late 80s: Apollo porting System 6 GUI (QuickDraw & Finder) to Apollo's Domain/OS -- OS may have still been called AEGIS at the time. In exchange, Apple could sell Apple-branded Apollo workstations running Domain/OS.
Domain/OS was not based on Unix, despite the articles. I'd say it was closer to PRIMOS (also derived from Multics).
I apologize, the above is totally off subject but your comment sparked my interest, and this is an OS site and we are all OS nerds. :-)
It is hard to find info about this: all sites points to this text:
but this looks like only source of this information... pretty strange.
BTW good text about OS/2 @ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/27/the_os_wars_os2_25years_old...
FOR FUN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnLmtuA42N8 Edited 2013-02-17 21:53 UTC
A link between Commodore and IBM probably explains the ARexx (Amiga Rexx) scripting language included with Amiga OS.
there is no direct link. Rexx was well documented and specified language, someone read said documentation and specifications and implemented a version for Amiga. RTFM used to be a very common happening back then...
Rexx made it to DOS 2000. ( DOS 7+ Rexx ). A powerfull scripting language.
The design for OS/2 was multi-tasking, and it shone at this, but the main use turned out to be mainframe connectivity, and it shone at that. BUT microsoft's preditaory practices, and the lag of OS/2 drivers essentially killed it.
I remember running Windows 95 and Windows 98, under warp, as well as a webserver/file server, and not noticing that other users were on, until they hit the disk...It was good, but Windows 2000 turned out to be rather mature, and skinny by todays standards.
Actually REXX was first included with IBM PC DOS 7.0. I know this because my first computer was an IBM that came with DOS 7.0
Just poking around the mainframe at work I have seen REXX supported on z/OS, but I think JCL is ubiquitously preferred.
What about OSFree?
Never made it past the bootloader stage...
OS/2 was awesome.
I was heavily into the BBS scene back in the early 90s and OS/2 was perfect for running multiple DOS based BBS Software packages.
Loved the OS and it is a shame it never took off.
It actually did take off for a while, and it won a lot of awards, but when IBM pulled the plug on what little support it was giving the OS it became harder and harder to stick with it.
I used it as my primary OS between mid-1992 and 2006 or so, but once the magic smoke leaked out of my primary PPro box I moved to various Linux flavors. I really miss the WPS and my old 4OS2+FileJet command line setup, but Midnight Commander and bash can also make me happy. :-) And I have to admit that the FOSS ecosystem has far surpassed my expectations. Linux distros have come a looong way since the mid-90's. Edited 2013-02-12 23:13 UTC
I used OS/2 and later eComStation from 1995 until 2012, then I switched to a Linux distro, OS4 http://www.os4online.com which I absolutely love. Tried Linux Mint, tried vanilla Ubuntu but with OS4 it was love at first boot. With OS/2 and eComStation a niche OS, I think that OS4, OpenSUSE and Red Hat Linux are pretty much poised as the ultimate OS/2 replacement
... but it's really rehashing a lot of previous articles on OS News. I think most would know "OS/2 became eComStation" and that IBM has repeatedly refused to opensource the code.
Nice to see an article about eCS once in a while.
Twenty years now I'm running OS/2 rsp. eCS as my main system with no regret.
Never needed any antivirus software although I'm nearly 24*7 online. I'm always quite fond of malware news.
Yes, nothing compares to the WPS.
No, I'm not unlucky. It's feeling nice - high above the crowds.
I got screenshots for the curious: koryphi.net/ecs .
How would you say it compares to doxbox for running dos games?
Haha, interesting - I'm not much of a gamer these days myself, but I wouldn't mind trying it out.
When I was a kid, I actually knew about OS/2, which I guess basically showed my destiny to remain a geek. I think I even asked to get a copy of Warp, but it never happened. Maybe I'll build an eComStation box one of these days after I relocate.
With the price of eCS, I would not say it fit in the hobby OS.... I know about all the licences and stuff, still, cost too much just to toy around with it.
And who would want to live in a 16/32bit world now? OS/2 is still filled with 16bits stuff, native code (lol @ Win 3.1 !!!).
If I wanted to live in the past, I'd prefer doing it with Windows NT 4.0 instead of OS/2. It was fine when the battle was between DOS and Windows 3.x / 95.
You're going to tell me that a Live DEMO CD is the same thing as a fully working/installable free Linux distro? Or whatever other alternative OS you want to use that tend to be free?
In the end, you're getting a free DEMO, that's it. If you want to use it, you have to buy it and cost is still going to be a big issue.
And I'm not trendy, I've said that I would prefer to use Win NT 4.0 (1996) that is more modern (fully 32bit) than OS/2. At least you can run much more Windows apps on NT.
To each their own.
He's got a point. Toying around doesn't mean spending 15 minutes playing and that's it.
To truly take a measure of an os you've got to install it, hack it, change things install things, try different adapters and hardware, build some code on it etc. With live demos, you can't really do any of that. The lack of change persistence is a non-starter.
The $149 price tag on the Home & Student edition is a lot to ask for an eCS license that covers software that is only marginally different from Warp 4.
I don't think it needs to be free, but I think $50 is a more reasonable price for eCS.
Thank you, that's what I'm trying to say.
If you don't like the term "toy around" then maybe "take it for a test drive" would be better. And you can't do that with a Live DEMO CD.
I takes more than 15mins for me to select my favorite distro, I like to edit files, move things around, change the decors.
$149 to be in a "select group" of eCS users? Well, I'm in way better group that don't charge that much.
Anybody who's even a passing technophile / geek / computer aficionado already knows that OS/2 morphed into eComstation. (e_e) Next.
I will like to add the open source software that we currently have running on OS/2-eComStation.
We have OpenOffice 3.2.0, Firefox 10, Thunderbird, OpenJDK 1.6, CUPS, Qt 4 libraries, a lot of open source Qt4 apps ported, GCC compiler, etc.
We may lack many apps and drivers, but we still have the foundation to keep using OS/2 today.
With eComStation 2.2 coming out on April (according to Mensys) and a new Live demo CD, I hope we can get more people in the community.
Ultimately, the underlying goal of OS/2 was to return to IBM the control over the PC market - so of course users and other vendors rebelled, Gang of Nine style, and chose the relatively friendlier option of MS Windows.