Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Mar 2013 21:30 UTC
Gnome "The GNOME Project has officially released GNOME 3.8 today. This latest version of GNOME 3 delivers major new features, a brand new application and a host of smaller bug fixes and enhancements."
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MacMan
Member since:
2006-11-19

Still not there yet, with Gnome 3.8, you STILL need to install a 3rd party program (tweak tool) to do something as ridiculously simple as changing screen fonts. And even that can't do something as simple as changing window colors, which I could do with the windows 2.x control panel.

What is so damned hard about letting users pick their own damned colors???

Reply Score: 6

Sodki Member since:
2005-11-10

As far as I know, the reasoning is that the current theme controls all the aesthetics, including colors and fonts. This is supposed to give you a coherent visual experience. I still thinks it's bollocks, but that's the explanation. On the other hand, themes are really easy to tweak. Still, it's bollocks.

Reply Score: 8

TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

From what I have read in mailing list threads, the Gnome team want to ensure that when someone looks at your desktop, they know its Gnome. So they don't want you mucking with the defaults and changing how it looks. A reason why you basically can't change the top black bar.

Reply Score: 4

judgen Member since:
2006-07-12

Without a simple working sollution like the pixbuf engine for gtk2 all themes for gnome will keep looking like shite. Flat, dull and css crapness.
In the mailing list you can read why, they want to kill off all 3d party additions to the gnome desktop.

Reply Score: 3

When you build something any idiot can use...
by cmost on Thu 28th Mar 2013 01:08 UTC
cmost
Member since:
2006-07-16

...only idiots will want to use it. Gnome is a creation of its developers for its developers and users be damned. Enough said.

Reply Score: 3

Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

...only idiots will want to use it

Well, in your world Linus Torvals is an idiot then, cause he when back to GNOME.

http://www.zdnet.com/linus-torvalds-switches-back-to-gnome-3-x-desk...

Reply Score: 3

judgen Member since:
2006-07-12

The article is just plain wrong and you would realize that if you actually read Torvalds responses, also the writer used old sources which in itself disqualifies the article. He tried it out, he did not like it...
Ask him today and he will say that he is using gnome as a main desktop.

There is a video from Finland where he is asked face to face what desktop he prefers, and he even explains why he do not use gnome. Search the mighty google or youtube and you shall find.

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Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

The article is just plain wrong

Nah, you are the blind one.

Reply Score: 2

Comment by Yoko_T
by Yoko_T on Thu 28th Mar 2013 01:09 UTC
Yoko_T
Member since:
2011-08-18

"The GNOME Project has officially released GNOME 3.8 today. This latest version of GNOME 3 delivers major new features, a brand new application and a host of smaller bug fixes and enhancements."

Too bad they didn't decide on making it something other than what Teletubbies want to use.....

Isn't that right La-La?

La-La:"La-La!!!"

Yes,another satisfied Gnome3 User....

Edited 2013-03-28 01:19 UTC

Reply Score: 2

hitting experimental now.
by stabbyjones on Thu 28th Mar 2013 02:01 UTC
stabbyjones
Member since:
2008-04-15

Looking forward to the owncloud integration and a that's about it this release.

Reply Score: 3

RE: hitting experimental now.
by Yoko_T on Thu 28th Mar 2013 22:26 UTC in reply to "hitting experimental now."
Yoko_T Member since:
2011-08-18

Looking forward to the owncloud integration and a that's about it this release.


Just ask everyone who got nailed by Sandy in one manner or another just how well owncloud integration can and will work in a real-world enviroment when one actually needs it.

What's that,it doesn't work?

Color me SHOCKED

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: hitting experimental now.
by stabbyjones on Sat 30th Mar 2013 06:57 UTC in reply to "RE: hitting experimental now."
stabbyjones Member since:
2008-04-15

What?

Reply Score: 2

KDE user here
by andrewclunn on Thu 28th Mar 2013 13:07 UTC
andrewclunn
Member since:
2012-11-05

But man, I'm sick of all the Gnome 3 hatred. If you don't like it, okay. If you have specific grievances, then fine. But the, "Gnome 3 is for idiots!" BS and such is stupid beyond belief. It doesn't make you a l33t linux user. It makes you a tool.

Reply Score: 7

RE: KDE user here
by JRepin on Thu 28th Mar 2013 22:24 UTC in reply to "KDE user here"
JRepin Member since:
2007-10-18

I'm also a very happy KDE Plasma desktop and KDE software user and I couldn't agree more with what you say. We need more solidarity and support among free/libre and open source software as we have actually have a big enemy to fight with and we will need to fight it together.

Reply Score: 2

Consider a defeat...
by Jason Bourne on Thu 28th Mar 2013 18:53 UTC
Jason Bourne
Member since:
2007-06-02

For the developers to include a classic mode, you can really call this a defeat for the core GNOEM developers... bow down to RED HAT. Stubborn to force on users the 'revolutionary' layout of GNOME? Guess who's backing you up. They demand corporate solutions for seamless transitions.

That means the GNOME developers may not decide everything on corporate grounds after all, even with some of them working at RED HAT. Which is a good thing to think there are sane minds out there in RED HAT.

Reply Score: 3

Gnome are dead
by NewTron on Fri 29th Mar 2013 01:57 UTC
NewTron
Member since:
2012-07-27

After Gnome 2.x Gnome are dead. How many 3.x versions they need to realize.
I'm asking me if -at least- all gnome 3.x team uses this bullshit.

Reply Score: 0

Breakage
by judgen on Fri 29th Mar 2013 12:16 UTC
judgen
Member since:
2006-07-12

Finally! Now we can start to fix all the broken themes and extensions YET AGAIN. Gnome project has made it very clear in several of their mailing list post that they wish to kill off 3d party themes and extension projects.
I like software freedom (and some may say freedom and libery in general) and i find gnome to be unfriendly to non-gnome developers in general when trying to add to stuff written by the gnome peeps. Their loss i guess as people leave for more friendly enviroments.

They went from being the most used desktop on *ix with gnome2 to almost obscurity with gnome3. I wish them nothing but the best, but why did they have to alienate EVERYONE from developers to end users. Even corporate entities are refusing gtk3 and gnome3. Not a good sign to come for the project.

Reply Score: 4

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by Anonymous on Mon 1st Apr 2013 08:36 UTC