Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th May 2013 23:59 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless The Tizen Greek Community has some screenshots of a very recent build of Tizen running on a Samsung GT-i8800. It looks wholly unremarkable.
Order by: Score:
Comment by kragil
by kragil on Sat 25th May 2013 00:14 UTC
kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

Touchwiz eye cancer.

Reply Score: 5

I can't like Tizen...
by leech on Sat 25th May 2013 03:02 UTC
leech
Member since:
2006-01-10

To me, Tizen is basically what MeeGo would be if you ripped out all the good bits (Qt with QML, full Linux compatible distribution, etc) and really only does what Firefox OS can do. HTML5 is not really a good platform for applications. No matter how much some people want it to be.

Reply Score: 8

RE: I can't like Tizen...
by jayrulez on Sun 26th May 2013 03:30 UTC in reply to "I can't like Tizen..."
jayrulez Member since:
2011-10-17

Not entirely true. Tizen has a Native C++ API. https://developer.tizen.org/documentation/dev-guide?redirect=https~*...

Reply Score: 2

maybe its biggest point
by oiaohm on Sat 25th May 2013 07:38 UTC
oiaohm
Member since:
2009-05-30

Being unremarkable also can equal very intuitive to use.

The most popular OS before Android and iOS was symbian. Symbian was not known for its fancy looks.

We have been in need of a good plain looking phone.

Reply Score: 3

RE: maybe its biggest point
by CapEnt on Sat 25th May 2013 16:31 UTC in reply to "maybe its biggest point "
CapEnt Member since:
2005-12-18

And now Symbian is near death.

Reply Score: 3

RE[2]: maybe its biggest point
by Neolander on Sun 26th May 2013 07:15 UTC in reply to "RE: maybe its biggest point "
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

And now Symbian is near death.

Not a fair point, when you see that Nokia themselves have voluntarily took every step to bury it. At the time where the infamous "burning platform" memo which started this process was released, the Symbian ecosystem was very much alive, largely dominating the smartphone industry, and still growing.

While there were some reasoned arguments for Nokia to switch to another OS, be it Meego or Windows Phone, in the long run, concerns about Symbian's short-term (5-year) market success were not one of them. Even the current WP strategy could have kept the company flying on Symbian sales a lot longer, if the management did not take the option of throwing the company's assets in the water and yelling them to learn to swim quickly.

Edited 2013-05-26 07:30 UTC

Reply Score: 2

RE[3]: maybe its biggest point
by zima on Wed 29th May 2013 12:28 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: maybe its biggest point "
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I see you still think that Symbian was viable after all... ;) (and you overlook that its app ecosystem wasn't really very lively)

Reply Score: 2

RE: maybe its biggest point
by zima on Wed 29th May 2013 12:27 UTC in reply to "maybe its biggest point "
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Did you ever use Symbian? It wasn't very pleasant...

Reply Score: 2

Its by design.
by przemo_li on Sat 25th May 2013 11:08 UTC
przemo_li
Member since:
2010-06-01

One theory is that Samsung want to sweep Tizen for Android on their phones, and hence need same UI as for Android. (Add to it Samsung own app store, and compatibility with Android apps, and Samsung could defeat Google over singe night...)

Other is that using current UI from Android was easy, and could cut "deliver to the market" time.

Reply Score: 4

RE: Its by design.
by moondevil on Sat 25th May 2013 11:24 UTC in reply to "Its by design."
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Except they still need to get apps for Tizen and I doubt anyone would like to use the Bada SDK for it.

Reply Score: 4

RE: Its by design.
by No it isnt on Sat 25th May 2013 15:32 UTC in reply to "Its by design."
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

If Samsung were to swap Tizen for Android, the collective yawn from the world's developer communities would be deafening. I don't know about anyone except Samsung and Intel that wants Tizen.

Reply Score: 2

RE[2]: Its by design.
by moondevil on Sat 25th May 2013 22:47 UTC in reply to "RE: Its by design."
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Well, at least they have Unity.

As for C++, every time I look at their documentation with hopes they got something sane, it brings back bad memories of Symbian C++ with their two step construction, placement new, naming conventions to denote method behaviors and many other headaches.

Which developer in their sane mind whats to work with that again?

Reply Score: 3

RE[3]: Its by design.
by swift11 on Sun 26th May 2013 09:48 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Its by design."
swift11 Member since:
2012-08-23

Well, at least they have Unity.

Almost every game engine runs on Tizen: https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/Game_development

Reply Score: 1

RE[4]: Its by design.
by Nelson on Sun 26th May 2013 16:26 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Its by design."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

That is not "every Game Engine" especially when half of those are stupid HTML/JS frameworks like Sencha that no one will touch.

The other one is a generic Game Maker which isn't very good from what I've used it, and its honestly not very good.

Unity and Project Anarchy are the only two competent offerings there, and even that isn't a whole lot. Certainly not every game engine.

Marmalade is actually layered on top of Cocos-2dx but thats never been performant (check Cut the Rope on Windows RT)

Reply Score: 3

Translation
by CavemanGR on Sat 25th May 2013 19:29 UTC
CavemanGR
Member since:
2011-08-11

The text doesn't say anything special. It says you can see the UI v. 2.1 and check the new S-Voice for Tizen.

It also says that on the Tizen conference on May 25th will be given 500 phones to the first ones (it doesnt specify in what) and he's gonna try to get one so he brings it back to Greece.

Anyway, enjoy the pics

Reply Score: 3