Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 23rd Jul 2013 23:30 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless If you're in the market for a smartphone, odds are you're looking at an Android phone. If you're looking at an Android phone, odds are you're looking at Samsung, and if you're exotic, you may be looking at a Nexus, HTC, LG, or maybe even Sony. Few of you will be considering Oppo. I, however, did.
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Looks very nice
by kwanbis on Wed 24th Jul 2013 01:35 UTC
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2005-07-06

But isn't the Nexus 4 $390 including shipping and all? This is $110 dollars more (I don't know if they have taxes, N4 does).

Edited 2013-07-24 01:36 UTC

Reply Score: 3

RE: Looks very nice
by dakohli on Wed 24th Jul 2013 04:09 UTC in reply to "Looks very nice"
dakohli Member since:
2010-12-30

Yes, the N4 is marginally cheaper than the 16G version. The Oppo seems to have a full HD screen (N4 has WXGA), a 13MP camera (N4 has 8MP), 2500mA battery (N4 has 2100mA) neither have SD slots, or removable batteries. The N4 has an active developer community, while the Oppo's manufacturer also supports a good developer community.

I think that the Oppo is priced right, and should do well as long as people hear about it.

(disclaimer-I am a Nexus 4 user, and quite like it)

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RE[2]: Looks very nice
by kwanbis on Wed 24th Jul 2013 14:36 UTC in reply to "RE: Looks very nice"
kwanbis Member since:
2005-07-06

I agree it has better specs than the N4, which is more or less expected on a newer phone. My comments was because it is 28% more expensive than the N4 (again, I'm not considering shipping and taxes while I do consider them for the N4 price), and that is not "roughly the same price as a Nexus 4", at least not for me. That said, when time comes to change my N4, I would surely look into the Oppo 5 or it's successor.

Edited 2013-07-24 14:37 UTC

Reply Score: 3

RE[3]: Looks very nice
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 24th Jul 2013 15:00 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Looks very nice"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The N4 and Oppo Find 5 are both €400 in The Netherlands.

Reply Score: 2

RE[4]: Looks very nice
by kwanbis on Wed 24th Jul 2013 15:21 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Looks very nice"
kwanbis Member since:
2005-07-06

Well, in usa the N4 ends up with taxes and shipping ($15!) at U$ 390. On the website linked on the article, the Oppo 5 is U$ 499.

Reply Score: 3

RE[5]: Looks very nice
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 24th Jul 2013 15:46 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Looks very nice"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Well I'm European, so I don't really know whatever the situation is like the US, especially with the complicated federal/state taxes thing.

They're the same price here in The Netherlands :/.

Reply Score: 2

RE[6]: Looks very nice
by kwanbis on Wed 24th Jul 2013 16:14 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Looks very nice"
kwanbis Member since:
2005-07-06

Well, I'm South American, but I get my phones from USA, so I'm just telling you the situation there.

Reply Score: 2

RE[7]: Looks very nice
by bnolsen on Wed 24th Jul 2013 19:01 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Looks very nice"
bnolsen Member since:
2006-01-06

well, well, well.

Reply Score: 3

RE[6]: Looks very nice
by Flatland_Spider on Thu 25th Jul 2013 15:43 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Looks very nice"
Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

Taxes aren't that complicated when it comes to sales tax. There is not a federal sales tax. There is only state and local sales taxes.

Most people use the price as listed and specify when the price is after tax. They would say something like, "The phone is $310, after sales tax," or "It's $299, $310 after tax." US consumers are accustomed to having sales tax added at checkout, so they're used to a slight bump at the checkout.

More to the point, the European price does not equal the price in the US, for a variety of reasons that companies don't explain. A straight conversion of currencies doesn't work. It's an interesting exercise, but it's not guaranteed to be accurate unless the company says so.

Reply Score: 2

RE[2]: Looks very nice
by aliquis on Wed 24th Jul 2013 15:09 UTC in reply to "RE: Looks very nice"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

Does the Oppo support the ROMs.

Or do the ROM developers support the Oppo? ..

Reply Score: 2

RE[3]: Looks very nice
by przemo_li on Thu 25th Jul 2013 19:18 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Looks very nice"
przemo_li Member since:
2010-06-01

Oppo support communities around ROM's

So its Oppo support ROM's.

Reply Score: 1

sounds interesting, but is a bit pricy
by DREVILl30564 on Wed 24th Jul 2013 03:14 UTC
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2008-04-18

specs sound good other than the lack of a micro SD memory slot, but then again I'm using a galaxy nexus so I can't knock it too much for that, and so long as it's not extremely hard to take apart to swap the battery I can live with that too. My main sticking point is the cost for the device. maybe I can try one out in a year or two after the prices have dropped.

til then I guess I will stick with my current phone.

Reply Score: 2

made by bbk
by hehe108 on Wed 24th Jul 2013 03:38 UTC
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2013-07-24

in china
¥2300-3199 yuan

http://detail.zol.com.cn/333/332882/param.shtml

Edited 2013-07-24 03:41 UTC

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Quality Chinese products
by unclefester on Wed 24th Jul 2013 03:46 UTC
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2007-01-13

People may be surprised to know that China was traditionally considered to make the highest quality luxury goods available.

In Europe during the 18th-19th centuries a whole industry revolved around copying Chinese goods such as porcelain. [eg Wedgewood Willow Pattern].

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RE: Quality Chinese products
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 24th Jul 2013 16:28 UTC in reply to "Quality Chinese products"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Every country has had periods of time where their products were considered crap or awesome sauce.

Reply Score: 4

Comment by BBAP
by Bringbackanonposting on Wed 24th Jul 2013 03:53 UTC
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2005-11-16

Yes, and they also have Panda Bears.

Reply Score: 4

RE: Comment by BBAP
by aargh on Wed 24th Jul 2013 13:15 UTC in reply to "Comment by BBAP"
aargh Member since:
2009-10-12

Yes, and they also have Panda Bears.


Unfortunately, they have problems because of copy protection.

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RE[2]: Comment by BBAP
by aliquis on Sat 27th Jul 2013 11:46 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by BBAP"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

Isn't most of all problems human existance?

Bill Gates (foundation? whatever) has posted on their facebook group about how much of the yearly growth of the planet is consumed by humans and how much.. was it space or resources? Are used up by humans, animals kept by humans vs wild animals.

It's a damn dicease. I assume Pandas would and have copied themself very well as long as they had forests/high growing grasslands(? ;) ) and no humans around.

Reply Score: 2

Great review!
by z3r03d on Wed 24th Jul 2013 04:42 UTC
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2013-07-24

Been using another Chinese made phone - Xiaomi MI2S. It is beautiful (MIUI v5). All I can say is, people who can send things/people to space can surely build a mean phone.

My next phone will probably be a YotaPhone or the X-Phone.

Great review!

Edited 2013-07-24 04:45 UTC

Reply Score: 3

so, this looks... no clue
by l3v1 on Wed 24th Jul 2013 05:39 UTC
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2005-07-06

glass of the display is true edge-to-edge - in fact, there's a third edge since it stretches all the way to the top of the device. The bezels on the two sides are very thin, further


Yeah. Seriously. Describe it from corner to corner, edge to edge, front to back, and no freaking picture? Come on. Yea, we can find it, we know about it, still, seriously?

Reply Score: 13

Spoiled
by Savior on Wed 24th Jul 2013 07:37 UTC
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2006-09-02

I loved the idea of the 3rd party device with vanilla Android on it. However, since I read about the Ubuntu Edge campaign, my "want" receptors have been all fixed on it instead...

Reply Score: 2

Comment by Luminair
by Luminair on Wed 24th Jul 2013 07:44 UTC
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2007-03-30

"The Find 5 ranks among the very best of smartphones out right now"

come on thom.

Reply Score: 3

Acer Liquid E2 Duo
by jal_ on Wed 24th Jul 2013 08:50 UTC
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2006-11-02

I have an Acer Liquid E2 Duo for about two months, and I'm pretty happy with it. It has a 1.2GHz quad core and 1GB of RAM, does have an SD card slot, and costs a little more than half of the Oppo. Everyone spending more than 250 EUR on a phone is crazy ;)

Reply Score: 3

RE: Acer Liquid E2 Duo
by AlekosPanagulis on Wed 24th Jul 2013 13:21 UTC in reply to "Acer Liquid E2 Duo"
AlekosPanagulis Member since:
2012-03-19

I have a telegraph and it's enough to speak with my parents. Come on, we don't really care about your ugly Acer Liquid E2 Duo.

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Acer Liquid E2 Duo
by jal_ on Wed 24th Jul 2013 13:31 UTC in reply to "RE: Acer Liquid E2 Duo"
jal_ Member since:
2006-11-02

For one, I find it quite appealing, not ugly. Secondly, what I was saying, is that you don't need to spend 400 euros to get a decent phone.

Reply Score: 5

RE[3]: Acer Liquid E2 Duo
by WereCatf on Wed 24th Jul 2013 13:41 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Acer Liquid E2 Duo"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

For one, I find it quite appealing, not ugly. Secondly, what I was saying, is that you don't need to spend 400 euros to get a decent phone.


To be honest, you said "Everyone spending more than 250 EUR on a phone is crazy." That does come off as kind of elitist of you and I do not agree with your assessment. If you are happy with such a phone then it's all good and well, but trying to present something like that as the perfect solution for everyone is just ignorant.

Reply Score: 1

RE[4]: Acer Liquid E2 Duo
by jal_ on Wed 24th Jul 2013 15:09 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Acer Liquid E2 Duo"
jal_ Member since:
2006-11-02

You are completely right, that'll teach me to leave out imhos (although I *did* add a smiley for good measure).

Reply Score: 4

RE: Acer Liquid E2 Duo
by Soulbender on Thu 25th Jul 2013 11:47 UTC in reply to "Acer Liquid E2 Duo"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Everyone spending more than 75 EUR on a phone is crazy ;)

Reply Score: 3

RE[2]: Acer Liquid E2 Duo
by WereCatf on Thu 25th Jul 2013 11:54 UTC in reply to "RE: Acer Liquid E2 Duo"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

To be honest, after some serious soul-searching, research and God-given insight into human matters I've come to the conclusion that anyone spending less than 600€ on a phone is crazy. And because they're crazy they'll go and call other people crazy.

Reply Score: 1

RE[3]: Acer Liquid E2 Duo
by jal_ on Thu 25th Jul 2013 12:02 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Acer Liquid E2 Duo"
jal_ Member since:
2006-11-02

Crazy or poor!

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RE[3]: Acer Liquid E2 Duo
by Soulbender on Fri 26th Jul 2013 02:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Acer Liquid E2 Duo"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

I think we can distill this to "everyone who has a phone is crazy".

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RE[2]: Acer Liquid E2 Duo
by jal_ on Thu 25th Jul 2013 12:00 UTC in reply to "RE: Acer Liquid E2 Duo"
jal_ Member since:
2006-11-02

Haha, damn right! My previous one was a 15 EUR feature phone. However, I decided I no longer could resist the allure of having a multi-purpose mini computer in my pocket. I'm weak! ;)

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RE[2]: Acer Liquid E2 Duo
by przemo_li on Thu 25th Jul 2013 19:22 UTC in reply to "RE: Acer Liquid E2 Duo"
przemo_li Member since:
2010-06-01

I agree ;)

And I would place that tag at 60$ ...

Right now you can buy smartphone below 100$ so why bother with conventional phone for more than 60$?

:P

Reply Score: 1

Too big
by arpan on Wed 24th Jul 2013 08:58 UTC
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Member since:
2006-07-30

I have a Nexus 4, and it's too delicate and too big.

Make me one with the same performance but with

* 4.3" 720p screen - Gorilla glass
* Water proof body
* 32gig

and I'll gladly pay $399 to $450 for it.

And seriously guys, if you are willing to support Cyanogenmod on it, why not ship it with stock Android + custom launcher.

Why do I need to root it and waste my time to make it better?

Reply Score: 4

RE: Too big
by unclefester on Wed 24th Jul 2013 09:38 UTC in reply to "Too big"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13



Make me one with the same performance but with

* 4.3" 720p screen - Gorilla glass
* Water proof body
* 32gig

and I'll gladly pay $399 to $450 for it.



Sony Xperia Acro

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_acro_s-4781.php

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RE[2]: Too big
by Morty on Wed 24th Jul 2013 10:17 UTC in reply to "RE: Too big"
Morty Member since:
2005-07-06

"

Make me one with the same performance but with

* 4.3" 720p screen - Gorilla glass
* Water proof body
* 32gig

and I'll gladly pay $399 to $450 for it.



Sony Xperia Acro

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_acro_s-4781.php
"

Or the Sony Xperia V.

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_v-4958.php

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RE[2]: Too big
by arpan on Thu 25th Jul 2013 08:30 UTC in reply to "RE: Too big"
arpan Member since:
2006-07-30

Not satisfactory. I want something with Nexus 4 or Oppo 5 performance.

* This one has a Sony skin. I want stock Android. I don't want to have to root it and lose warranty
* Only has 1GB RAM vs Nexus 4's 2GB
* Only dual-core Snapdragon S3 vs the Nexus 4's quad Core S4

Basically it is an older & slower phone. Waterproofing & size are nice but not at the cost of performance.

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RE[3]: Too big
by Morty on Thu 25th Jul 2013 10:55 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Too big"
Morty Member since:
2005-07-06

Well then you have to go for the latest model, the Xperia Z. But then you are back at a big territory, as it comes with a 5" screen. Seems like the development goes in the direction of bigger screen. Don' like it much myself either(Those paddles are rather impractical, but then again the Sony can actually be used as one:-) )

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-5204.php

For the Sony skin, it seem actually quite nice for the little testing I have done. Better than the HTC stuff anyway. Personally I don't find the stock Android to be that good either(It is, compared to HTCs, but that's about the worst one).

Besides I think Sony supports rooting, so you may not void the warranty.

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RE: Too big
by aargh on Wed 24th Jul 2013 13:18 UTC in reply to "Too big"
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2009-10-12


* 4.3" 720p screen - Gorilla glass


Oppo Find 5 seems to have Corning Gorilla glass, Thom just failed to mention it.

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RE: Too big
by aqd- on Thu 25th Jul 2013 11:59 UTC in reply to "Too big"
aqd- Member since:
2009-02-16

I have a Nexus 4, and it's too delicate and too big.

Make me one with the same performance but with

* 4.3" 720p screen - Gorilla glass
* Water proof body
* 32gig

and I'll gladly pay $399 to $450 for it.


WRONG. A phone under $500 is FREE by 2-year contract. Except for Nexus 4, which is reported everywhere but sold nowhere and you can find no contract bound with it, ever.

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RE[2]: Too big
by WereCatf on Thu 25th Jul 2013 12:10 UTC in reply to "RE: Too big"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

A phone under $500 is FREE by 2-year contract.


Oh, the ignorance. The phone isn't free, the bill is just spread over 2 years. For a $500 phone that makes about $20/month that's added to your regular bill.

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RE[3]: Too big
by aqd- on Fri 26th Jul 2013 14:49 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Too big"
aqd- Member since:
2009-02-16

Oh, the ignorance. The phone isn't free, the bill is just spread over 2 years. For a $500 phone that makes about $20/month that's added to your regular bill.


Where do you live?? Here the $500 is totally for 3G/call bill. You just have to pay them first at once, then you won't need to pay anything in about one year.

Edited 2013-07-26 14:51 UTC

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RE[4]: Too big
by WereCatf on Fri 26th Jul 2013 17:08 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Too big"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

"Oh, the ignorance. The phone isn't free, the bill is just spread over 2 years. For a $500 phone that makes about $20/month that's added to your regular bill.


Where do you live?? Here the $500 is totally for 3G/call bill. You just have to pay them first at once, then you won't need to pay anything in about one year.
"

You're not making sense here. First you're talking about 2-year contracts and now you suddenly jump to 1-year contracts.

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RE[5]: Too big
by aqd- on Sat 27th Jul 2013 02:57 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Too big"
aqd- Member since:
2009-02-16

You're not making sense here. First you're talking about 2-year contracts and now you suddenly jump to 1-year contracts.


oh you misunderstand. Let me explain the details:

2-year contracts cost about $1,000 ($40 * 24), and it allows you to get a phone for free up to $500 - if you choose cheaper phones it's your loss. What it requires is for you to pre-pay the same amount of phone bills as the cost of phone itself first. So you pay $500 which equals to about 12 months of phone bills, and then you don't have pay phone bills until the accumulated sum of them exceed $500 (=> about a year later).


The $500 / 12 = ~ $40 covers unlimited 3G and totally free calls as long as caller/callee use the same MNO (it's our dominating MNO). Basically it guarantees a fixed amount of phone bills every month, no matter how many calls you make or how much you use Internet.


It's what we have here in Taiwan. I always thought the policy is the same everywhere in the world.

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RE[6]: Too big
by aliquis on Sat 27th Jul 2013 12:27 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Too big"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

And what do that $40 contract give you?

My subscription cost 18 SEK = 2.8 USD / month but of course I get no phone with that.

If I want a phone I'd get a subscription which cost more because I would also be paying off the phone.

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RE[6]: Too big
by WereCatf on Sat 27th Jul 2013 12:34 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Too big"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

oh you misunderstand. Let me explain the details:

2-year contracts cost about $1,000 ($40 * 24), and it allows you to get a phone for free up to $500 - if you choose cheaper phones it's your loss. What it requires is for you to pre-pay the same amount of phone bills as the cost of phone itself first. So you pay $500 which equals to about 12 months of phone bills, and then you don't have pay phone bills until the accumulated sum of them exceed $500 (=> about a year later).


Then everything I said still stands: you're not getting the phone for free, you're still paying for it but its price is covered by the regular bills.

It's what we have here in Taiwan. I always thought the policy is the same everywhere in the world.


Nope. Almost every country have their own style. Like e.g. here in Finland you can just get a number without a phone and in such a case you don't have to sign a contract, but if you also take a phone with it you usually end up signing a 2-year contract and the price of the phone is just rolled up in the monthly bills. You do not pay anything up-front, you just pay the bill once a month and that's it. I am paying about $22/month for a similar plan as you, but mine doesn't include the cost of the phone. If I wanted a phone to go with it it'd be something around $40/month.

Unlike the U.S., though, even the phones sold here on contract do not come SIM-locked. Atleast on most carriers, I'm not sure about Telia-Sonera anymore.

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Crappy site
by arpan on Wed 24th Jul 2013 09:00 UTC
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2006-07-30

Oh, and that's one of the worst markup I've seen in a site. The whole page is just images, even the text! And incomplete alt-text. Very, very poor accessibility!

Reply Score: 4

RE: Crappy site
by deathshadow on Wed 24th Jul 2013 15:35 UTC in reply to "Crappy site"
deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

It does indeed reek badly of "WCAG, what's that?!?"

Though entirely what I've come to expect from designers using inaccessible trash like grid960, endless pointless javascript for **** only knows what, presentational use of CSS, and the steaming pile of manure known as HTML 5. (not a fan)

You'd almost think it was Prestashop with some rubbish off the shelf template from templateMonster or ThemeForest, that some halfwit "designer" just slapped images into any old way.

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On-screen buttons
by puidelup on Wed 24th Jul 2013 12:14 UTC
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2013-03-19

I never quite understood why people dislike on-screen keys. I find them a good idea.

First off: the chunk of the screen you loose is disposable! In portrait mode there's no usage pattern I know of in which the extra height is needed. In landscape mode, the argument of lost screen surface sometimes makes sense, but really, the screen was plenty wide to begin with. I have had a Nexus 4 for many months now and never ever missed the "lost" screen.

The big advantage they bring: flexibility. One example: Many applications still use the "settings" or "triple bar" button, which does not exist in the new Android key layout. This is also encouraged by the fact that many manufacturers kept the settings button on recent hardware (Bad Samsung, BAD!). Having on-screen buttons gives those applications a way to elegantly expose a fourth button if they need it.

Is there nobody else who thinks on-screen buttons are a good idea?

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RE: On-screen buttons
by WereCatf on Wed 24th Jul 2013 12:20 UTC in reply to "On-screen buttons"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Is there nobody else who thinks on-screen buttons are a good idea?


I'm undecided on that, myself. I do understand the flexibility they bring and all that, but at the same time I cannot help but remember that they do not offer tactile feedback; you can't just slide your finger on them without ever even looking at the screen and still know which one you're touching.

I am quite sure I could get by either way, I just don't find one inherently superior to the other.

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RE: On-screen buttons
by Troels on Wed 24th Jul 2013 20:52 UTC in reply to "On-screen buttons"
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2005-07-11

Not me. I like having a 5" screen that i can use. If i wanted a smaller screen i would have bought a different phone, and i have certainly never wished the screen was smaller, at least not while it is out of my pocket :-)

Keeping the cost of the phone down is the only argument i can see in favor of the on-screen buttons. I think they are extra silly on a phone like the nexus 4 where there are plenty of room for "external" buttons, and that was in fact the main reason that i didn't buy one and opted to wait for the S4 instead. Alone having to locate the power button to unlock it instead of having a convenient button on the front would drive me crazy, when i tested the N4 i found it annoying to unlock with just one hand, would have to move it around in the hand to press the button. Also with the physical home button i have an easy reference point to feel if the phone is orientated the right way without having to look at it.

I personally prefer real physical buttons instead of capacitive ones. If i had a € for each time i have hit the back button by accident on my S4, well, i would have a big pile of change ready for my next trip to the euro zone.

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Ubuntu Edge
by tingo on Wed 24th Jul 2013 12:25 UTC
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17 comments already, and nobody has mentioned the Ubuntu Edge yet?
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge

Reply Score: 2

RE: Ubuntu Edge
by unclefester on Thu 25th Jul 2013 03:28 UTC in reply to "Ubuntu Edge"
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2007-01-13

17 comments already, and nobody has mentioned the Ubuntu Edge yet?
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge


It has very little hope of actually being built due to a lack of interest from potential customers.

The hardware isn't particularly amazing. Other companies will be offering similar hardware within a year.

Sapphire is HARD not tough. It is actually far more brittle than toughened glass and totally unsuitable for phone screens.

The Edge business plans totally sucks because the developers have absolutely no idea how Formula One teams operate. They are primarily marketing platforms for major vehicle makers such as Mercedes and Renault. They are not independent technology developers or 'skunk works'. F1 technology takes decades before it is ever gets transferred to mainstream road cars. [Monocoque chassis, disc brakes, fuel injection, carbon fibre composites etc were all developed by aircraft makers 10-20 years before they were used in F1.)

Edited 2013-07-25 03:30 UTC

Reply Score: 4

RE[2]: Ubuntu Edge
by WereCatf on Thu 25th Jul 2013 09:01 UTC in reply to "RE: Ubuntu Edge"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

The hardware isn't particularly amazing. Other companies will be offering similar hardware within a year.


I personally am appalled by the fact that the Edge only sports a 3.5mm stereo connector and an MHL-connector, no docking capabilities at all; if it's to be advertised and sold as a device that can even be used as a regular PC then how the hell are you going to attach printers, scanners or something like that without any sort of a dock? I'm not sold on MHL, either -- I have a whole bunch of displays at home, but only one of them has HDMI-in and that's the 42" TV.

Reply Score: 2

RE: Ubuntu Edge
by shotsman on Thu 25th Jul 2013 12:46 UTC in reply to "Ubuntu Edge"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

It will be even more of a continuous work in progress than any other Android phone if Ubuntu is anything to go by.
That is why I'd never buy a phone with anything from Canonical on it. They seem (IMHO) to start a whole lot of project in all sorts of areas but how many really get finished or at least into a state whereby they can be compared to the competition? AFAIK, not very many.

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Why do you compare it with a GS4
by renox on Wed 24th Jul 2013 14:56 UTC
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Member since:
2005-07-06

You know you can still buy GS3, I bought mine when the GS4 was out, and at the time it cost me 380€.

Now, I have some complaints about the phone: sometimes not responsive and not very readable outdoors on bright day, but it has a major advantage: applications work well on it (as it is quite widespread, developers test their app on it).

Reply Score: 4

nexus 4 comparison?
by zeos386sx on Wed 24th Jul 2013 15:11 UTC
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2005-07-18

I have seen a few websites compare this phone to the nexus 4, but the cheapest version of the oppo is $500 while the nexus is $300. That seems like a large difference in price to be comparing the phones.

Reply Score: 2

RE: nexus 4 comparison?
by kwanbis on Wed 24th Jul 2013 23:13 UTC in reply to "nexus 4 comparison?"
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2005-07-06

I mentioned the same on the first post. But to be fair, the 16GB N4 is 350+taxes+shipping=390.

I bought one.

Reply Score: 2

Op Op Oppo Find 5!
by BurningShadow on Wed 24th Jul 2013 18:05 UTC
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Member since:
2006-09-07

Total Oppo Find 5 style...

Reply Score: 2

Looks good
by trixacola on Thu 25th Jul 2013 03:53 UTC
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Member since:
2013-07-25

I know you're a big fan of this phone, so I had a look just now on YouTube to see it in action. I really like it actually. You've mentioned to me that it has a flashing LED that you can change the colour of depending on the app or person messaging you...and being a bit of a girly girl that appeals to me GREATLY.

I hate how shallow I am sometimes!

That being said, I'm a broke hobo and when i am a little less broke I will buy the Nexus 4 unless the HTC One Mini ends up being a similar price in which case that will be a serious contendor for me.

If I were not a broke hobo, I'd definitely seriously consider the Oppo Find 5 ;)

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Next, XiaoMi
by tonny on Thu 25th Jul 2013 10:54 UTC
tonny
Member since:
2011-12-22

You should try xiaomi. I bet you'll find it awesome too ;) . www.xiaomi.com (use google translate to navigate).

Edited 2013-07-25 10:55 UTC

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