Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 12th Sep 2013 23:00 UTC
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The long-awaited day has come.

Twitter, the 200 million user microblogging service, has filed for its initial public offering. Fittingly, the only public acknowledgement came in the form of a simple tweet.

"Long-awaited"? Wait, people actually waited for this?

Must not have a lot going on in their lives.

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Twitter files for IPO...
by gagol on Fri 13th Sep 2013 00:52 UTC
gagol
Member since:
2012-05-16

...and nobody cares. At best, we remember the fuck-up of Facebook IPO and... dont care!

Reply Score: 4

So?
by marcus0263 on Fri 13th Sep 2013 01:54 UTC
marcus0263
Member since:
2007-06-02

I still can't get what the big deal is about Twitter

I woke up
I scratched my butt
I took a dump
I ate

and other totally useless and no one cares information ...

Reply Score: 8

RE: So?
by Fergy on Fri 13th Sep 2013 06:18 UTC in reply to "So?"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

I still can't get what the big deal is about Twitter

I woke up
I scratched my butt
I took a dump
I ate

and other totally useless and no one cares information ...

It is RSS light. RSS for dummies.

Reply Score: 3

RE[2]: So?
by judgen on Fri 13th Sep 2013 07:16 UTC in reply to "RE: So?"
judgen Member since:
2006-07-12

But without almost any decent content.

Twitter is for narcisists and their stalkers. And the only other usage i have found is for the news media to copy from since they do no actual investigation any more. Just look at CNN, it seems they are more interested in their twitter account than the news.

Reply Score: 6

RE[3]: So?
by Ultimatebadass on Fri 13th Sep 2013 07:26 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: So?"
Ultimatebadass Member since:
2006-01-08

Twitter is for narcisists and their stalkers.


So, everybody's happy, right? Attention whores get their attention, stalkers get to stalk. Pretty successful service if you ask me.

Reply Score: 4

RE: So?
by ricegf on Fri 13th Sep 2013 14:21 UTC in reply to "So?"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

I don't follow "celebrities" (on Twitter or elsewhere). I mostly follow tech and financial publications, who tweet the title and author of each article as it is published with a link. When I have a few minutes, I can scan and select an interesting quick read.

I retweet perhaps 10 articles a year that I consider insightful.

If you tried it and all you saw was what you posted, you really followed the wrong accounts! :-D

Reply Score: 3

RE: So?
by lucas_maximus on Fri 13th Sep 2013 19:50 UTC in reply to "So?"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

It actually really damn good for updates on things like elections, service availability, transport (during heavy snow in the UK, I was getting updates via Twitter on how late/where the buses on my route were) and other things that lend themselves for quick status alerts.

Reply Score: 3

RE: So?
by viton on Fri 13th Sep 2013 20:18 UTC in reply to "So?"
viton Member since:
2005-08-09

It depends on who you follow.
For me it is a primary source of information.
There are a lot of world's top engineers and researchers on twitter.

Reply Score: 2

another worthless PO
by unclefester on Fri 13th Sep 2013 01:57 UTC
unclefester
Member since:
2007-01-13

Does the world needs another totally worthless tech company that will never make a profit? [Amazon is still losing money 17 years after it was publicly listed.]

Edited 2013-09-13 01:57 UTC

Reply Score: 2

Comment by kwan_e
by kwan_e on Fri 13th Sep 2013 02:10 UTC
kwan_e
Member since:
2007-02-18

Wait, people actually waited for this?

Must not have a lot going on in their lives.


They're called investors.

Reply Score: 3

RE: Comment by kwan_e
by l3v1 on Fri 13th Sep 2013 05:45 UTC in reply to "Comment by kwan_e"
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

They're called investors.


Well, I wouldn't put my money in twitter, that's for sure. Mainly because I've never thought much of it, just a silly idea of letting people post 1liner craps for free that got fashionable and I still don't see much promise in it, and certainly not a good ROI in the long run. The initial few months could be interesting though, but after that... They might still have a few years of fun until nobody will care anymore. I stopped caring about 5 days after they launched.

Reply Score: 4

RE[2]: Comment by kwan_e
by gagol on Fri 13th Sep 2013 08:02 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by kwan_e"
gagol Member since:
2012-05-16

I use twitter to follow industry trends and plant blog links... does a wonder for traffic. Nobody forces you to follow idiots.

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RE[2]: Comment by kwan_e
by lucas_maximus on Fri 13th Sep 2013 19:51 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by kwan_e"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18
Comment by 0brad0
by 0brad0 on Fri 13th Sep 2013 04:06 UTC
0brad0
Member since:
2007-05-05

Maybe Twitter can fix their site so it isn't so broken / slow / screwing up on such a regular basis.

Reply Score: 2

RE: Comment by 0brad0
by ricegf on Fri 13th Sep 2013 14:53 UTC in reply to "Comment by 0brad0"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

You might try a twitter app. If you mostly just read tweets and their embedded links, I'd suggest Flipboard.

It aggregates twitter and other data feeds, automatically including the link target, all intermixed and laid out in a magazine style that's easy to browse for interesting content by flipping through the pages (hence the name).

You can also easily and at no cost subscribe to (or create) virtual magazines on any topic. Some are quite unique - ultra-small houses, virtual currencies, and such. Great relaxation for the brain.

I've used it on both my iPad 1 and my Nexus 4, and it's the best value I've seen for the cost (free).

Recommended.

Reply Score: 3

RE[2]: Comment by 0brad0
by 0brad0 on Fri 13th Sep 2013 17:36 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by 0brad0"
0brad0 Member since:
2007-05-05

I don't want a workaround. Just fix the site.

Reply Score: 2

RE[3]: Comment by 0brad0
by ricegf on Fri 13th Sep 2013 20:02 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by 0brad0"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

It's not my website, so I can't fix it. I promise to never offer any help to you again, though. Sorry to have offended. ;)

Reply Score: 2

RE[4]: Comment by 0brad0
by lucas_maximus on Fri 13th Sep 2013 23:07 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by 0brad0"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

He is being a dick, tell him where to go.

Reply Score: 2

RE[5]: Comment by 0brad0
by 0brad0 on Fri 13th Sep 2013 23:44 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by 0brad0"
0brad0 Member since:
2007-05-05

He is being a dick, tell him where to go.


I do take offense to someone calling me a dick when I did nothing wrong. You're being your usual douchebag self. Go f--k yourself.

Edited 2013-09-14 00:01 UTC

Reply Score: 2

RE[5]: Comment by 0brad0
by ricegf on Sat 14th Sep 2013 02:54 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by 0brad0"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

It's possible that dealing with my many grandchildren has led me to favor patient explanation rather than insults. How would they ever learn manners otherwise? ;-)

I encounter a distressingly large number of people in forums that seem to have missed the benefits of a patient grandparent. Perhaps that's why I rather like Twitter - it's hard to squeeze off a really nasty insult in 140 characters. *shrugs*

Reply Score: 2

RE[6]: Comment by 0brad0
by lucas_maximus on Sat 14th Sep 2013 07:50 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by 0brad0"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Being younger I don't have that patience. Fair enough.

Reply Score: 2

RE[6]: Comment by 0brad0
by Neolander on Sun 15th Sep 2013 09:15 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by 0brad0"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

It's possible that dealing with my many grandchildren has led me to favor patient explanation rather than insults. How would they ever learn manners otherwise? ;-)

I encounter a distressingly large number of people in forums that seem to have missed the benefits of a patient grandparent. Perhaps that's why I rather like Twitter - it's hard to squeeze off a really nasty insult in 140 characters. *shrugs*

Strange, that. In my own experience, arbitrary character count limitations rather tend to lead people (myself included) to more simplistic thinking, and thus to more insulting behaviour. Because it takes less precious characters to call someone a moron than to patiently and politely explain what they did wrong and why it was wrong.

Either that, or people start to use xtrmly abrvt wrdng to sqz a few xtr chrs in, in a way reminding of some greybeard programmers who write code as if variable names were still limited to 8 characters.

I still remember the joy of entering the unlimited text era on cellphones a few years ago, and finally being able to type (almost) as much as I like in a text without worrying about how much it will cost. Why one would want to go back to such stringent character count limitations, when technological considerations can no longer justify it, is beyond me.

Edited 2013-09-15 09:32 UTC

Reply Score: 2

RE[4]: Comment by 0brad0
by 0brad0 on Fri 13th Sep 2013 23:43 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by 0brad0"
0brad0 Member since:
2007-05-05

It's not my website, so I can't fix it. I promise to never offer any help to you again, though. Sorry to have offended. ;)


I did not say you. I was not offended and you have nothing to be sorry about. You simply misinterpreted what I said.

Edited 2013-09-13 23:59 UTC

Reply Score: 2

RE[5]: Comment by 0brad0
by ricegf on Sat 14th Sep 2013 02:49 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by 0brad0"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

When someone takes the time to try to help you, an appropriate response is "thank you". An inappropriate response is "go fix it for me".

When someone points out that you have been rude, an appropriate response is "I'm sorry". An inappropriate response is "you can't read".

Until you learn the basics of social interaction, you will likely struggle to succeed in any endeavor that requires playing well with others.

You'll note that I did not tell you where to go or what to do to yourself when you get there. This is because I intend this to help you (though I will probably still choose to ignore you in the future, as I said), not to offend you. However, you can take it as you will.

Hope you have a pleasant evening.

Reply Score: 3

Get some dough
by Soulbender on Fri 13th Sep 2013 07:06 UTC
Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

"Shit, we're STILL not turning a profit. Time stop caring about the company, go public, get some capital and get the hell out"

Edited 2013-09-13 07:07 UTC

Reply Score: 6

RE: Get some dough
by gagol on Fri 13th Sep 2013 08:03 UTC in reply to "Get some dough"
gagol Member since:
2012-05-16

Quick search for "is twitter profitable" just proved me wrong. They are profitable and have been for some time.

Reply Score: 2

RE[2]: Get some dough
by unclefester on Fri 13th Sep 2013 08:34 UTC in reply to "RE: Get some dough"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

Twitter reported a 2012 "profit" of only $3.1 million on revenue of $245 million. [This profit is almost certainly a result of creative accounting.] This means Twitter has a realistic valuation of less than $50 million.

Reply Score: 3

RE[2]: Get some dough
by Soulbender on Fri 13th Sep 2013 08:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Get some dough"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

They are profitable and have been for some time.


Apparently obscenely so. I'm quite amazed

On the other hand, the reference I found also said the following:
"Third of all, most successful companies don't brag about their profits. Google didn't. Zynga didn't."

Yeah....Zynga.....

Reply Score: 3

RE[3]: Get some dough
by tylerdurden on Fri 13th Sep 2013 19:33 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Get some dough"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

I had to google it to find out what the hell is Zynga.

Reply Score: 3

RE[4]: Get some dough
by gagol on Fri 13th Sep 2013 20:13 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Get some dough"
gagol Member since:
2012-05-16

A company that made the most of their profit by convincing kids to borrow their parents credit cards to buy virtual stuff for stupid games. ;-)

Reply Score: 4

RE[5]: Get some dough
by siride on Mon 16th Sep 2013 01:25 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Get some dough"
siride Member since:
2006-01-02

Actually, based on the people I know who play those games, it's not infrequently the parents and grandparents who are the target audience.

Reply Score: 2

RE[4]: Get some dough
by lucas_maximus on Fri 13th Sep 2013 23:08 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Get some dough"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Well they did well for a quite a bit and then lost a lot.

They didn't cash out when they should have (or maybe the right people did)

Edited 2013-09-13 23:13 UTC

Reply Score: 2

RE[5]: Get some dough
by Soulbender on Sat 14th Sep 2013 17:33 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Get some dough"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Did they ever turn any real profit though? I'm not sure.
Even with impressive revenue it seems they always operated at a net loss.

Reply Score: 2

RE[6]: Get some dough
by lucas_maximus on Mon 16th Sep 2013 09:31 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Get some dough"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I honestly don't know. Unfortunately as I learnt from my business friends there are so many different definition of profit, you can make the numbers say anything you want.

Reply Score: 2