Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Dec 2013 22:11 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Jolla promised another big bugfix update before the year was over, and they delivered. Version 1.0.2.5 brings a whole boatload of bugfixes and stability improvements, but also brings in a few new features - such as one-way Google Calendar synchronization, camera support for Android applications, and a few more. Bigger new features are expected to arrive in January.

The update rollout itself was a bit of a disaster - the servers became overloaded (at least, that's what it looked like), so many people couldn't download the update, or would have the download hang halfway through. As far as I know, the update seems to be rolling out fine now, but having this process go wrong when the userbase is as small as it is means they've got some work to do on this one.

In the meantime, Christmas was packed with gifts for Sailfish users when it comes to applications. For instance, Sailfish has its own, native WhatsApp client now - and it works perfectly, and looks great. There's also a video player, and a native Facebook client - Friends - is getting daily updates. Then there's TinyWebBrowser; started out as a test project, but is already getting more useful than the stock browser, mostly because it supports landscape (a feature the stock browser will supposedly get in January).

All in all, the rate of new applications, new versions to existing applications, and operating system updates is all very promising, especially if you take into the account the very small userbase (I would guess several thousands at this point). Let's hope they can keep it up. For what it's worth - thanks to the new applications, I already uninstalled the Android compatibility stuff from my Jolla.

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Review please!!
by reduz on Sat 28th Dec 2013 03:35 UTC
reduz
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2006-02-25

CanĀ“t wait to know more about it..

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Comment by drcouzelis
by drcouzelis on Sat 28th Dec 2013 04:09 UTC
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2010-01-11

I assume they also fixed the battery life bug, increasing idle battery life from around 48 hours to near 500 hours.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92130

...if not, it's an easy fix for any user, thanks to the open nature of the device. (The bug and fix was actually discovered by the Jolla community.)

;)

Edited 2013-12-28 04:09 UTC

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RE: Comment by drcouzelis
by WereCatf on Sat 28th Dec 2013 10:52 UTC in reply to "Comment by drcouzelis"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

to near 500 hours.


I don't have much to say except.... daaaang! o_o

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RE[2]: Comment by drcouzelis
by cdude on Sun 29th Dec 2013 04:55 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by drcouzelis"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

Impressive! They also have a feedback-system in place now with http://together.jolla.com/
Beside kind of inofficial roadmap it gives some clue whats missing, worked on, etc.

Edited 2013-12-29 04:57 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by drcouzelis
by bitwelder on Mon 30th Dec 2013 08:30 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by drcouzelis"
bitwelder Member since:
2010-04-27

I'm testing the battery on my Jolla in an an semi-idle test where the device has 3G *and* WLAN connectivity and a once-a-day mail sync (but no other activity).
I'm at 9th day after last recharge and with still a quarter of the battery left (and because of that I haven't yet applied last update).
It won't be 500 hours in the end, but I'm already very pleased with the result.

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Comment by emilsedgh
by emilsedgh on Sat 28th Dec 2013 08:27 UTC
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Member since:
2007-06-21

And you have not posted your review, Thom.

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RE: Comment by emilsedgh
by olejon on Sat 28th Dec 2013 11:40 UTC in reply to "Comment by emilsedgh"
olejon Member since:
2012-08-12

Waiting for that as well!

TBH I can't stand all the translucency in the sceenshots, but it may look better on an actual device (like I thnk WP does). Can't say I really like the translucency in iOS 7 either.

Edited 2013-12-28 11:43 UTC

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RE: Comment by emilsedgh
by Morgan on Sat 28th Dec 2013 13:12 UTC in reply to "Comment by emilsedgh"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I'm sure he wants to spend a little more time with the phone, as well as evaluate a few more patches and point releases given this is uncharted territory. A review at this stage would be premature.

That said, I'm definitely looking forward to it too!

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RE[2]: Comment by emilsedgh
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 28th Dec 2013 22:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by emilsedgh"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

And yes, I've started on my Jolla/Sailfish review.

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v Too much
by zdzichu on Sat 28th Dec 2013 10:45 UTC
RE: Too much
by WereCatf on Sat 28th Dec 2013 10:55 UTC in reply to "Too much"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Hey, can you spare us posts about every point release of OS? Something like technical teardown would be much more interesting.


It may not interest you, but I certainly am interested in learning about these kinds of releases. Sailfish, after all, is a totally new OS in the market and how it evolves, what things are fixed or added and how fast could totally mean the difference between life and death for the whole thing. Once it's matured a bit and established a small, but secure spot in the market then sure, but for now I'd certainly prefer him to keep posting these things.

Also, Thom quite likely is still busy reviewing and writing, he'll post his findings here when he's ready.

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RE[2]: Too much
by jockm on Sun 29th Dec 2013 06:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Too much"
jockm Member since:
2012-12-22

Well that is is being updated is of some interest, but that should be easily discoverable from the company in question. I would really like it if the threshold for a story were higher than just that an OS had been updated.

There should have been something that put the information in some kind of context, or added something of interest. For example, I found it more than a little surprising the default web browser didn't support landscape.

I know the OS is new, but that is pretty fundamental. Also, shouldn't supporting landscape just be a matter of some layout settings? I have exactly no idea, but exploring that question might have been interesting. Instead we got something that is little more than a press release.

Oh on the bit about the rollout difficulty, as opposed to speculating as to what was the cause, perhaps some original reporting could have been done. At the very least find out an official response.

Edited 2013-12-29 06:45 UTC

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RE: Too much
by vicdavery on Mon 30th Dec 2013 08:22 UTC in reply to "Too much"
vicdavery Member since:
2012-11-30

Or perhaps you need to read a different site.
This is OSNews after all, and this is a release of an OS which in my book at least counts as news on an OS.

Particularly when this is an OS in it's infancy, on a brand new mobile and is making such great strides forward already.

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One-way?? calendar sync
by pepa on Sun 29th Dec 2013 07:31 UTC
pepa
Member since:
2005-07-08

Reading that they added one-way sync for Google calendar doesn't sound very good, unless I'm misunderstanding..?

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Just ordered this phone
by joekiser on Sun 29th Dec 2013 13:52 UTC
joekiser
Member since:
2005-06-30

I just won a Jolla phone on eBay. It ended up costing a little over $600 USD, plus whatever the import tariffs end up being. That's still much cheaper than what I've seen recently on eBay, where they've fetched more than $1000 USD.

I guess I'm no better than one of those Apple fans who need to be the first in line to get their new product. Who cares, I'm excited.

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RE: Just ordered this phone
by shmerl on Mon 30th Dec 2013 03:39 UTC in reply to "Just ordered this phone"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Why so expensive? You could find someone in Europe to buy one for you, or to order directly from some store which sells it (they might ship overseas). The problem is, it's not usable with 3G or LTE networks in US anyway, so while I'm excited, I'm not going to pay so much money for something that I can't fully use. I'll wait until they'll release another revision, or in the worst case until the next model which probably should have a universal modem already.

Edited 2013-12-30 03:42 UTC

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RE[2]: Just ordered this phone
by drcouzelis on Mon 30th Dec 2013 03:57 UTC in reply to "RE: Just ordered this phone"
drcouzelis Member since:
2010-01-11

The Jolla mobile costs 400 Euros, which is about 550 U.S. dollars. In my opinion, paying an extra $50 to avoid needing to take the time to find someone (trustworthy) to buy it and ship it to me would be worth it.

...if only I had the money to even consider it. ;)

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Comment by Gregory Isaacs
by Gregory Isaacs on Sun 29th Dec 2013 16:07 UTC
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2006-06-30

I like the phone and getting some news about it is fine. Let's just enjoy Thoms experience with his new phone. The update policy often tells a lot about a company.

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RE: Comment by Gregory Isaacs
by jockm on Mon 30th Dec 2013 03:11 UTC in reply to "Comment by Gregory Isaacs"
jockm Member since:
2012-12-22

Yes, but wouldn't it be nice it there were some kind of substance to the ports, some kind of analysis?

Over the last six month (I think, could be more), OSNews went from multiple updates per day, to a handful a week. We went from a mix of news links, and "features"; to little more than reposts from other sites... well some have snide comments in them.

Maybe something is going on behind the scenes; maybe Thom is working on the War & Peace of feature stories; maybe it has lost the plot and needs to find a new focus; maybe one of a dozen other somethings.

But I would like more than just to be told when an OS has been updated...

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RE[2]: Comment by Gregory Isaacs
by Adurbe on Mon 30th Dec 2013 09:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Gregory Isaacs"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

Its interesting to me because this is a new OS in a heavily competitive market.

In terms of the news quality/quantity, OSNews has always given you the ability to contribute, either with your own work or with the submission of linked news stories.

Send in some stories that are more of your interest and they may also be of interest to others, in my time I've had 22 submissions on the site. You cant expect Thom to do ALL the work for the OSNews community..

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SailfishOS for my phone?
by 01Michael10 on Tue 31st Dec 2013 14:52 UTC
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Member since:
2013-05-07

Anyone know when they are going to release the SailfishOS to install on like a Nexus 5?

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