Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Apr 2014 21:57 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Yoon said Samsung was working to introduce at least two smartphones running on its own Tizen operating system, a major step in the market leader's bid to break out of the Android universe.

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Aaaand no-one cares
by The123king on Wed 16th Apr 2014 22:47 UTC
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No-one cares. Why? Because the market it already saturated with competing smartphone OSes. From the big 3 systems (iOS, Android, WP8.x) to the smaller players such as BB10, Sailfish OS, Firefox OS etc etc, there's just too many systems. Much like we saw in the personal computer boom in the 80's, there will be a plethora of different mobile OSes as companies latch on to a completely new platform. Some will die a premature death, some will be stillborn, and some will live on for another 20 years. Whilst I cannot see Apple or Google's mobile offering fading out in 10 years, I doubt i'll be saying the same about Tizen.

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RE: Aaaand no-one cares
by unclefester on Thu 17th Apr 2014 08:02 UTC in reply to "Aaaand no-one cares"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

Samsung needs an alternative OS to Android as a Plan B. They cannot risk being totally reliant on Google.

Samsung is a highly diversified mega conglomerate that can afford to spend tens of billions of dollars to create and market a new phone OS.

I'm pretty sure Samsung wants to develop a strong brand loyalty to Samsung rather than Android.

Reply Score: 8

RE[2]: Aaaand no-one cares
by swift11 on Thu 17th Apr 2014 08:42 UTC in reply to "RE: Aaaand no-one cares"
swift11 Member since:
2012-08-23

yep but Tizen is financed by the Tizen Association, a drop in the ocean for these guys and it's part of their Linux R&D budget anyway.

I don't like Google's spyware aka Android, I prefer a Linux Foundation OS which is a good combo of web apps and Linux apps imo.

Edited 2014-04-17 09:01 UTC

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RE[2]: Aaaand no-one cares
by somebody on Thu 17th Apr 2014 11:11 UTC in reply to "RE: Aaaand no-one cares"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

Samsung needs an alternative OS to Android as a Plan B. They cannot risk being totally reliant on Google.


if i'd have to guess, android was actually their plan B that proved as more successful than plan A while still retaining B marker. samsung would've definitely preferred os that they have a say in how it evolves. now, if you look at linux of that time, no way it could fit into mobile world.

going with custom os... too expensive

going with tizen now... completely different story. but, unlike story wants to point it out, it is not date related or "we will ship it" related. it is a waiting game where all parties simply wait for all legos to fit. systemd, wayland, kdbus are simply must have before shipping it unless plan involved gun/bullet/my foot/pain points. well, kdbus is not really necessary since there is binder already there, but it would sure be damn nice to have one ipc for all

i know that if i'd be manufacturing phones only logical step would be waiting for tizen 3.0, since it includes whole lot of necessary lego parts. as most important fact 2.x is still x11 and that is one thing you wouldn't want on phone. 3.0 is wayland and as such much more lightweight

Edited 2014-04-17 11:15 UTC

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RE: Aaaand no-one cares
by somebody on Thu 17th Apr 2014 10:03 UTC in reply to "Aaaand no-one cares"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

No-one cares. Why? Because the market it already saturated with competing smartphone OSes. From the big 3 systems (iOS, Android, WP8.x) to the smaller players such as BB10, Sailfish OS, Firefox OS etc etc, there's just too many systems. Much like we saw in the personal computer boom in the 80's, there will be a plethora of different mobile OSes as companies latch on to a completely new platform. Some will die a premature death, some will be stillborn, and some will live on for another 20 years. Whilst I cannot see Apple or Google's mobile offering fading out in 10 years, I doubt i'll be saying the same about Tizen.


i for one care and reason why is really simple. tizen is pure linux, using same technologies as modern linux distros will. android simply deviates too far from it. and don't mistake this as me saying it is bad what they did. in the time they did it, they had 0 choice. putting x11 instead of creating surfaceflinger on phone would be disaster, not creating binder would be same. that probably goes for most things where they deviated from ordinary tech of the time. only problem is that all that is completely restricted to what android needs and how android needs

if i'd choose phone today, i'd go for wp probably even though i don't like or use windows. same app everywhere is simply beneficial in too many ways. but, since i can wait i'll opt for tizen

when i look at tizen, i simply see too many possibilities what can one do with phone. i really hope i could finally get to year 2000 where i simply connect my phone to wi-fi, log into remote session from computer and do some work (with normal apps). tizen and support for multiseat might just enable me to do that. and running android apps on tizen was never a problem so that also takes care about "yeah, but does it have...?"

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RE[2]: Aaaand no-one cares
by krreagan on Thu 17th Apr 2014 17:45 UTC in reply to "RE: Aaaand no-one cares"
krreagan Member since:
2008-04-08

tizen is pure linux, using same technologies as modern linux distros will. android simply deviates too far from it.

And you think Tizen/Samsung will be will be any different then Android/Google?? Samsung will advertise it as open then if it gets any traction it will be locked down even tighter than Android! Samsung has no love of OSS. At least Google acts like they GAS even if in reality they don't!

Samsung is aiming for an ecosystem the likes of iOS. The problem is that they don't have the following to drive a closed ecosystem.

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RE[3]: Aaaand no-one cares
by somebody on Thu 17th Apr 2014 20:33 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Aaaand no-one cares"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

And you think Tizen/Samsung will be will be any different then Android/Google?? Samsung will advertise it as open then if it gets any traction it will be locked down even tighter than Android! Samsung has no love of OSS. At least Google acts like they GAS even if in reality they don't!

Samsung is aiming for an ecosystem the likes of iOS. The problem is that they don't have the following to drive a closed ecosystem.


and you think samsung will be the only one shipping it? i'll buy phone which fits in one of these 2 conditions
- is open
- i can change firmware with tizen variation of my choice (same as people now use cyanogenmod, just having damn lots more options)
at least the second condition will show up really fast

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RE[4]: Aaaand no-one cares
by swift11 on Fri 18th Apr 2014 13:46 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Aaaand no-one cares"
swift11 Member since:
2012-08-23

Tizen is a Linux Foundation/Tizen Association OS: impossible to lock down, which is very important for these guys btw: https://automotive.linuxfoundation.org/

Edited 2014-04-18 14:05 UTC

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RE[4]: Aaaand no-one cares
by krreagan on Fri 18th Apr 2014 21:45 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Aaaand no-one cares"
krreagan Member since:
2008-04-08

Why do you think Samsung is spending all this money on it... So they can let everyone have it as well... I doubt it!
They will either lock it down or it will fragment so it's no better then Android.
Either way its a dead end.

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RE[5]: Aaaand no-one cares
by swift11 on Sat 19th Apr 2014 00:28 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Aaaand no-one cares"
swift11 Member since:
2012-08-23

Like I said before, Tizen is financed by the Tizen Association: a drop in the ocean for these guys: https://www.tizenassociation.org/members/

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RE[5]: Aaaand no-one cares
by somebody on Sat 19th Apr 2014 08:49 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Aaaand no-one cares"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

Why do you think Samsung is spending all this money on it... So they can let everyone have it as well... I doubt it!
They will either lock it down or it will fragment so it's no better then Android.
Either way its a dead end.


you must understand following about samsung, lg, vodaphone... investment in tizen. it is not single investment, but rather double
- tizen as platform where they CAN'T lock down tizen since it is contained out of completely open source stack
- their custom software running on top of it where they CAN and WILL lock down their interface in 99.9% of chance.

if i go with custom tizen, that also means that tizen i use needs to have custom software. same as cyanogenmod has its own components (no difference). except you're not locked down to one solution only. also, you assume i need the apps provided by android, i don't. i would much rather cherry pick the few i really need (for example contacts, calendar, notes... that can be synced with ownCloud on my servers)

but, difference from android is that you can use already existing phone interfaces since you support linux stack 100%.... like my definite choice
enlightenment on my phone http://enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about&l=en that would be sweet
there is a shitload of phone interfaces for linux, not to mention i already named all steps to bring 100% native android on tizen

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RE[6]: Aaaand no-one cares
by moondevil on Sat 19th Apr 2014 11:40 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Aaaand no-one cares"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

The nice thing about hope, is how people keep believing into something until the very end.

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RE[7]: Aaaand no-one cares
by somebody on Sat 19th Apr 2014 22:56 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Aaaand no-one cares"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

i think you misunderstood me, since you probably are not wrong with what you tried to tell.

i couldn't care less about tizen as os. i care only about low level building stacks and the fact i could eventually put it on phone with ui+setup of my choice. something where android differs on way to low levels. with tizen there is at least wayland, gcc... which would require way less changes

samsung can keep whole api and mobile stack+lousy ui (they can lock it as much as they want), etc. i want distro base, package manager... and everything else that comes with it like on normal pc.

if i can't satisfy that on base tizen or on rooted with changed firmware on some community build,... then me having tizen is out of question and i need to look for other solution

Edited 2014-04-19 22:57 UTC

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RE: Aaaand no-one cares
by 01Michael10 on Thu 17th Apr 2014 16:38 UTC in reply to "Aaaand no-one cares"
01Michael10 Member since:
2013-05-07

No-one cares. Why? Because the market it already saturated with competing smartphone OSes. From the big 3 systems (iOS, Android, WP8.x) to the smaller players such as BB10, Sailfish OS, Firefox OS etc etc, there's just too many systems. Much like we saw in the personal computer boom in the 80's, there will be a plethora of different mobile OSes as companies latch on to a completely new platform. Some will die a premature death, some will be stillborn, and some will live on for another 20 years...


I kinda disagree with you and think the mobile and home PC markets are about in the same situation as far as OS platforms. On the PC side, we have the established Windows and OS X with the niche Linux. In the mobile arena, we have Android and iOS established with the niche Windows Phone. Both have a bunch of other OSs that just exist...

The difference that I see that really bugs me? On my PC, I can install almost any OS on it with little problem while on my Nexus 5 I can pretty much just install variations of the Android OS right down. Most phones are limited to just one OS. THIS is where the mobile market needs to mature but I have my doubts the situation will change much as phones are proprietary hardware based...

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RE[2]: Aaaand no-one cares
by The123king on Thu 17th Apr 2014 17:08 UTC in reply to "RE: Aaaand no-one cares"
The123king Member since:
2009-05-28

And in the 80's, most computers were restricted to one OS. Try booting MS-DOS on a Tandy TRS-80, or Commodore BASIC on an IBM PC/AT, etc etc. I

have great expectations for Google's Project Ara, giving us PC-esque intercompatability and modularity. Most importantly, if it becomes a de-facto standard, many other OS vendors, hardware makers etc will target the Ara platform.

As it is at the moment, the mobile device market is still very much in it's infancy. Time will eventually create a standard, and time will eventually weed out most OS competitors, we're just not that far along yet. Give it 6 years.

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RE[3]: Aaaand no-one cares
by 01Michael10 on Thu 17th Apr 2014 17:46 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Aaaand no-one cares"
01Michael10 Member since:
2013-05-07

And in the 80's, most computers were restricted to one OS. Try booting MS-DOS on a Tandy TRS-80, or Commodore BASIC on an IBM PC/AT, etc etc.


I think you missed my point... You inferred the mobile market now is like the PC market in the 80's with a lot of different OSs with no established players (unless I misread your comment). It's not, we already had the OS shakedown. It just happened so much faster in the mobile market's evolution then the PC.

I have great expectations for Google's Project Ara, giving us PC-esque intercompatability and modularity. Most importantly, if it becomes a de-facto standard, many other OS vendors, hardware makers etc will target the Ara platform.


I think the project is cool also but it only addresses one side of the equation which is the hardware intercompatability and modularity you mentioned. Having different OS options for it I am more doubtful of...

Time will eventually create a standard, and time will eventually weed out most OS competitors, we're just not that far along yet. Give it 6 years.


It already has... I don't see the dominance of Android and iOS going anywhere soon (Windows will stick around but BB is dead). 6 years? The whole mobile phone market may be dead by then as people move on to wearables and stuff like Google Glass.

Edited 2014-04-17 17:47 UTC

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Yeah.. Nobody gives a monkeys...
by tekairangi on Thu 17th Apr 2014 00:49 UTC
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2007-11-18

Always puzzled me that Samsung (and others) think that they get sales due to to software differentiation. They get sales because they are cool ANDROID phones. The software differentiation costs them a bunch to develop and the majority of users use it once then simply don't care and mostly ignore it. The rest just don't like it. Tizen is as much a waste of time as Touchwiz or whatever it's called. Sure, some hardware features require custom software - but apart from the cameras, all the other rubbish they add is just that - rubbish for the vast majority of users. My next phone will likely be another Samsung becuase I love the screens - but the Google Play edition

Edited 2014-04-17 00:51 UTC

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REM2000 Member since:
2006-07-25

i agree the number one complaint with the S5 was the software, being slow and generally poorly made from a UI standpoint offering three different UI designs on one phone.

The number one comment is that Samsung was able to produce good software then they really would dominate even more so than now.

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bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

I think you are wrong and here is why...nobody LIKES Android, they TOLERATE it. It suffers from slowdowns, you have to reboot it, in a way it reminds me of Win9X in that we all put up with it frankly because the alternatives were worse.

Now if someone can come up with a mobile OS that is sleek, runs great on even entry smartphones, and more importantly give us the ease of use and reliability that our desktops give us now? It could really take off.

Smartphones really are still in their infancy and there is still a LOT of room for improvement. This is coming from somebody with an Android phone (in fact several in the family) but I'd be happy to switch to a better OS when one comes along....as long as it isn't an iPhone, I really don't like Apple's "We know better than you" attitude.

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aligatro Member since:
2010-01-28

I think you are wrong and here is why...nobody LIKES Android, they TOLERATE it. It suffers from slowdowns, you have to reboot it, in a way it reminds me of Win9X in that we all put up with it frankly because the alternatives were worse.


That's odd I am pretty sure I actually like Android and not just tolerate it. I have access to 3 Android devices two of which are mine and I haven't noticed slow downs or had the need to reboot.

Maybe you just buy cheap and crappy android devices? If you are not willing to spend money on decent hardware than don't complain about the OS.

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The123king Member since:
2009-05-28

I think you are wrong and here is why...nobody LIKES Android, they TOLERATE it. It suffers from slowdowns, you have to reboot it, in a way it reminds me of Win9X in that we all put up with it frankly because the alternatives were worse.


Get an iPhone then.


Now if someone can come up with a mobile OS that is sleek, runs great on even entry smartphones, and more importantly give us the ease of use and reliability that our desktops give us now? It could really take off.

Try AOSP, or the Google Play edition, or CyanogenMod, or of course, just get an iPhone.

I'd be happy to switch to a better OS when one comes along....as long as it isn't an iPhone, I really don't like Apple's "We know better than you" attitude.

I don't understand this "better than you" attitude. Are you talking about the hipster "i had an iPhone before it was cool" sort of "better than you", or the "$600 for a mid-range phone performance-wise" sort of "better than you"

To me, you look like a stereotypical Apple-basher. There's nothing wrong with bashing Apple, and i've done it a lot,, but IMHO Apple's software and hardware offerings are superior to any other manufacturers offerings available today.

Of course, if something better comes along, i'll buy that, but until then, i'll stick to my iPhone.

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

I don't understand this "better than you" attitude. Are you talking about the hipster "i had an iPhone before it was cool" sort of "better than you", or the "$600 for a mid-range phone performance-wise" sort of "better than you"

Pretty sure the OP is talking about the "well, you bought your device but we can tell you what you are permitted to do with it" better than you attitude. The same one, in fact, that drove me away. If I pay $649 for a phone, then goddamn it I should have the right to hook up something as simple as a USB thumb drive to it and copy my damn files back and forth. If I pay $799 for the most-advanced iPad, I damn well better not be tied to my computer just to use the official media player apps... but no, I can't just copy my media to it. I have to do it Apple's way, with their horrid software. I want a third-party player that can load media from my other iDevice? Well, too bad. I want to do something as simple as download a damned torrent, and not for illegal purposes. Can I do that? Nope. Can I install an app even if Apple doesn't like it? Hell no, because they think they know better than me. And don't give me that jailbreak nonsense. The fact that we'd even have to discuss jailbreaking proves how bad the situation has gotten.
It should be noted that all the things I mentioned above, every last one of them, I can do with my $269 Nexus 7 and my $200 Moto G. I don't even have to root them to do any little bit of these things. So just why would I waste more money on a company that treats its users like such idiots?
Funny that Apple are the ones pushing the term "post-PC" and yet they are the least post-PC company of all. Only iDevices do their best to tether you to your desktop or laptop. With my Nexus 7, my tablet is my laptop now, rather than a paperweight that can't stand on its own.

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bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

The fact that I have to JAILBREAK something I PAID MONEY FOR just to be able to run what I want on it? Fuck you Apple, if I pay for it its MINE!!!

If you want Apple being your mommy? That is YOUR choice. me I want MY device to run ANY app or OS that I WANT, that is MY CHOICE.

So far the closest to that is Android which is why I have one...but they still suck, its just better than having a company tell me what I can and can't do. Oh and as for the other suggestions? I already HAVE modded it, don't change the fact that Android still reminds me of Win9X...which BTW Apple does as well, it still needs reboots, still can suffer from slowdowns, they still suck.

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somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

you are making one grand mistake here.

you can make 100% android compatible distro from tizen, you can't make half assed linux distro out of android.

maybe i'm wrong here, but...
- binder is in kernel, no need to extra work
- you could make surface flinger as wayland compositor
- slapping dalvik on it should not be a problem either since it was already done few times now
- multi seat support already allows you to do different sessions at the same time
- adjust session loading as part of systemd

and yeah, one of posts before me said it really awesome with android not being liked, but rather tolerated.

you would get exact same android, just without crippling other ecosystem

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The123king Member since:
2009-05-28

I feel like I "tolerate" Windows more than i like it nowadays. Back in the 90's, it felt rad and hip, but nowadays it feels old, dated and clunky. I'm not saying it is, but the UI feel comes off that way. It just seems like if you peeled of the Luna/Aero/Windows8ExperienceMetroThemeThing, Windows would still look and feel identical to Windows 95.

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shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

You don't need surface flinger to run Android applications. Sailfish ships Alien Dalvik which works with Wayland. As you said, one can enable Android runtime in a normal distro, but to turn Android into normal glibc Linux would be hard. Android is crippled by design.

Tolerating Android now is necessary only because of the drivers lock-in. But there are normal Linux mobile distros around.

Edited 2014-04-17 18:25 UTC

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somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

You don't need surface flinger to run Android applications. Sailfish ships Alien Dalvik which works with Wayland. As you said, one can enable Android runtime in a normal distro, but to turn Android into normal glibc Linux would be hard. Android is crippled by design.

Tolerating Android now is necessary only because of the drivers lock-in. But there are normal Linux mobile distros around.


i might've misunderstood then. thanks on correction. i thought alien dalvik runs sandbox version of the steps i mentioned. that's where i thought native compositor is a must

and i think toleration is more or less since wayland&other last tech pieces are almost there, but not yet 100%. not to mention, wayland is defacto must have for linux on mobile

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Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Thu 17th Apr 2014 02:15 UTC
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2010-06-08

Will they use Intel SoCs? I hope Intel will get in shape at last. ARM SoC scene is sickening, with no open GPU drivers in sight, which requires glibc based Linux systems to resort to libhybris hacks. With Intel that can be avoided.

Edited 2014-04-17 02:16 UTC

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RE: Comment by shmerl
by darknexus on Thu 17th Apr 2014 02:27 UTC in reply to "Comment by shmerl"
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2008-07-15

Will they use Intel SoCs? I hope Intel will get in shape at last. ARM SoC scene is sickening, with no open GPU drivers in sight, which requires glibc based Linux systems to resort to libhybris hacks. With Intel that can be avoided.

Not necessarily, see Secureboot. Being Intel by no means guarantees a more open firmware when there's no need whatsoever for legacy PC support.

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Thu 17th Apr 2014 02:41 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Locked bootloaders is a nasty piece of junk, sure. But at least it would mean that Intel SoCs are production ready. For example Jolla could use one in their next device. So far Intel promised a lot, but where are their open SoCs?

Merrifield for example isn't using Intel GPU (it uses PowerVR), so no open drivers there. Only Moorefield will (which isn't going to be out until 2015).

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by The123king on Thu 17th Apr 2014 06:42 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
The123king Member since:
2009-05-28

You answered your own question there.

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by Lennie on Thu 17th Apr 2014 06:49 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

The open source hackers are reverse engineering, they've come pretty far.

It's not a perfect process, but it is better than nothing.

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RE[4]: Comment by shmerl
by The123king on Thu 17th Apr 2014 17:26 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by shmerl"
The123king Member since:
2009-05-28

Reverse engineering isn't a replacement for an open standard. It wholy depends on what is being reverse-engineered. For example, it's taken Haiku 10 years to successfully reverse-engineer BeOS and create a product highly compatible with BeOS applications. In the same time, ReactOS has created something that might boot, and if it does boot, probably won't run your windows apps or drivers. And then you can take hardware, such as the NVidia chipsets that Nouveau have been reverse engineering, or the Cray 2 that someone emulates in a FPGA. It's all a matter of scale. Some things are easy, some are hard.

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RE[5]: Comment by shmerl
by Lennie on Thu 17th Apr 2014 19:56 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by shmerl"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

It isn't a replacement for an open source driver from the manufacturer, sure.

But there is no such thing as a standard for drivers.

There are only standards for application writers, like OpenGL and the mobile version OpenGL ES.

Edited 2014-04-17 19:57 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by Kochise on Thu 17th Apr 2014 11:52 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

If AMD was going low-power with an APU offering with open bootloader, ARM-core or x86-core (as seens in Geode) with a Radeon based GPU (as seen in GameCube, XBox, PS4, ...) that would be fantastic ;)

Kochise

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by SailorSaturn on Sun 20th Apr 2014 19:59 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
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2014-04-20

I have some bad news for you if you're expecting Moorefield to have Intel graphics in it.

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/7789/Screen%20Shot%202014-...

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experts
by swift11 on Thu 17th Apr 2014 04:16 UTC
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Funny how all the "experts" have been proven wrong, once again.
Remember all the conspiration theories about Tizen after the Samsung-Google deal ?
Introducing a new mobile OS is a very difficult task indeed, even for a giant like Samsung. Other attempts like Sailsfish/Ubuntu are doomed imo.

Edited 2014-04-17 04:34 UTC

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RE: experts
by agentj on Thu 17th Apr 2014 05:03 UTC in reply to "experts"
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2005-08-19

Because the so called "experts" usually think they heard something from someone or invent so incredible bullcrap that many of the guys at Samsung laugh at this ;)

Edited 2014-04-17 05:06 UTC

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moondevil
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2005-07-08

They are so confident on Tizen that they are going drop it for Android Wear in the next Gear model.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/samsungs-new-wristwatch-android...

Based on my telecommunications experience, Tizen is nothing more than mental m*******tion of a few architects and managers at Samsung/Intel.

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swift11 Member since:
2012-08-23

Samsung has different OSs on phones, they'll have different OSs on Gear.
Simple, really.

Samsung will install Tizen on all their devices, not exactly mental m*** imo

Edited 2014-04-17 09:02 UTC

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...meh
by BallmerKnowsBest on Fri 18th Apr 2014 17:07 UTC
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2008-06-02

Tizen is still a thing? They should rename it to "NoShitsGivenOS" - that would accurately both the development efforts behind it and the general consumer response to Bada/Tizen so far.

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