Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th May 2014 11:02 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces

My love of typography originated in the 80's with the golden years of 8-bit home computing and their 8x8 pixel monospaced fonts on low-resolution displays.

It's quite easy to find bitmap copies of these fonts and also scalable traced TTF versions but there's very little discussion about the fonts themselves. Let's remedy that by firing up some emulators and investigating the glyphs.

I've been looking at a lot of these 8bit fonts because of recent emulation efforts. I'd like to throw Visi On's fonts into the fray, too.

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not an 8 bit system
by said1 on Thu 29th May 2014 12:03 UTC
said1
Member since:
2011-08-31

I think Visi On is a 16 bit system, since it ran on IBM PC.
http://toastytech.com/guis/vision.html

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v I always knew Thom was a horsefucker.
by tidux on Thu 29th May 2014 12:14 UTC
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I do not, and have never watched, MLP. I just like that picture.

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Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

Don't watch it, never ever : there are pink unicorns in it, you'll get addicted !

Kochise

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Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

Pink unicorn is a matter of something extremely rare and mysterious, Thom often make reference to them. Nothing to do with gayness. I guess. And even though it might, I don't care, that's Thom's business, don't you think ?

Kochise

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Oh man, why did you have to mention the unicorns? You KNOW how Thom is about them.
We can just forget about any more updates to osnews now.

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alphaseinor Member since:
2012-01-11

I was going to say it takes one to know one, but that would be as childish as calling Thom a horsefucker.

I'm also calling off topic

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Speak for yourself, Mr. Hands.

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Atari ST high res mode font
by theosib on Thu 29th May 2014 14:08 UTC
theosib
Member since:
2006-03-02

My favorite system font was the 8x16 font that the Atari ST series used for its high res modes. What I liked is how it had double-thick lines for both vertical and horizontal strokes. This made it easier for me to read (less eye strain?) than console fonts on other systems like the PC.

Here’s what it looked like:
http://www.dafont.com/atari-st-8x16-system-font.font

Edited 2014-05-29 14:09 UTC

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RE: Atari ST high res mode font
by Kochise on Thu 29th May 2014 21:19 UTC in reply to "Atari ST high res mode font"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

Right, ST High font is one of the most readable and comfortable. Too sad it was not really ASCII conformant, hence accents between DOS and TOS were scrambled.

Kochise

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RE[2]: Atari ST high res mode font
by jal_ on Fri 30th May 2014 09:31 UTC in reply to "RE: Atari ST high res mode font"
jal_ Member since:
2006-11-02

Too sad it was not really ASCII conformant, hence accents between DOS and TOS were scrambled.

Accents weren't part of ASCII. You may be thinking of the "high ASCII" or "extended ASCII" of IBM PCs (and all the code page hell that came later on).

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If you are into fonts...
by Tony Swash on Thu 29th May 2014 16:35 UTC
Tony Swash
Member since:
2009-08-22

... have a look at this book.

Just My Type: A Book About Fonts
Simon Garfield

I was given it for present and loved it.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Just-My-Type-About-Fonts/dp/1846683025/ref=...

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Comment by mrAmiga500
by mrAmiga500 on Fri 30th May 2014 12:29 UTC
mrAmiga500
Member since:
2009-03-20

Standard software that came with Amiga computers included a bitmap font editor. I can't think of another computer that included that as basic software. I was making my own fonts back in the 80's. You really start to appreciate fonts when you make your own.

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RE: Comment by mrAmiga500
by Earl Colby pottinger on Fri 30th May 2014 17:16 UTC in reply to "Comment by mrAmiga500"
Earl Colby pottinger Member since:
2005-07-06

I liked the better bitmapped fonts on the Amiga too. Of-course many were horrible too.

When the font was matched to the need and resolution of the screen they could be very clear to read.

I don't remember the name of the font, but there was one that was 10 pixels wide that made for good reading when on a BBS. Since it gave 64 characters per line it was a good match to most BBSs that always printing 40 or 64 columns per line.

Edited 2014-05-30 17:17 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by mrAmiga500 on Fri 30th May 2014 19:07 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by mrAmiga500"
mrAmiga500 Member since:
2009-03-20

Well the reason I made so many fonts on the Amiga was because most of the available ones were crap. The original Topaz in WB 1.x was fine. I still don't understand why they later modified it and made it so ugly in WB 2.0.

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Earl Colby pottinger Member since:
2005-07-06

I would not say most were bad. Maybe 50%, what could be affecting my judgement is until the 24 pin dot matrix printer came along offering 216 DPI most fonts always looked better on the screen than on paper.


On the other hand Amiga's Colour Fonts made a big impact of TV titling.

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RE: Comment by mrAmiga500
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 30th May 2014 19:58 UTC in reply to "Comment by mrAmiga500"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Yeah, mine were hideous.

I came the realization recently that all fonts are terrible. The best ones are the ones you don't even notice.

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Visi On Font ripped from memory dump
by roytam1 on Sun 1st Jun 2014 04:49 UTC
roytam1
Member since:
2014-06-01

> I'd like to throw Visi On's fonts into the fray, too.

I ripped Visi On fonts from PCE emulator memory dump to BDF fonts (contains Normal/Bold/Italic fonts and also 2x height(8x16) fonts):
https://sites.google.com/site/rtfreesoft/file-drop/VisiOn.7z?attredi...

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