Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 26th Jan 2015 20:51 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems

The PaperLike uses a 13.3-inch E Ink Fina screen that has a resolution of 1600 x 1200 (150 ppi). Fina is E Ink's glass-based display and is different from what's on the 13.3" Sony DPT-S1 PDF Reader, which has a flexible plastic-based screen.

The interesting thing about the PaperLike is that it uses so little energy that it doesn't even need to be plugged into its own power source. It connects to a laptop or desktop computer simply with a USB cable, and it gets enough power through the USB to refresh the screen.

This looks quite interesting in a cool-to-have sort of way. Too bad the price isn't exactly in the cool-to-have category.

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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Mon 26th Jan 2015 21:13 UTC
Kroc
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2005-11-10

E-paper is a great technology, completely underused because of dumb adherence to current trends.

If Amazon wanted an iPhone-killer, they should have released an e-ink only phone with a two week long battery life and a really simple user experience (none of this Android everything-and-the-kitchen-sink experience).

Personally I'd love an e-paper phone that just did phone calls, calendar and other such PDA stuff.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by Jedd on Tue 27th Jan 2015 00:15 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
Jedd Member since:
2005-07-06

I completely agree with you on both of your points. ;) I especially would love to see an e-paper phone that has a long battery life and does PDA functions; that would be VERY awesome.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by lispykid on Tue 27th Jan 2015 08:14 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
lispykid Member since:
2009-02-02

Like a Palm V with e-ink. I'd buy it!

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Jedd on Tue 27th Jan 2015 09:30 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
Jedd Member since:
2005-07-06

Yes! exactly PALM-like! I'd buy one for every member of my family, especially if the price was low. (Hec, it should be low, e-paper is supposed to be cheap).

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by REM2000 on Tue 27th Jan 2015 08:16 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
REM2000 Member since:
2006-07-25

i completely agree and have been saying this for ages, we would have a phone screen that would be incredibly sharp and clear whilst having the ability to view the screen in direct sunlight, this is what the fire phone should have been.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by No it isnt on Tue 27th Jan 2015 11:56 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

Yes, but people who buy iPhones also want to do Twitter, Facebook and chat (not to mention video and games), and e-ink is simply too slow to be useful for anything slightly interactive. An e-ink phone wouldn't be an iPhone killer, it wouldn't even be a popular consumer product.

Of course, you can already buy the YotaPhone, but 50 hours from an e-ink screen isn't all that impressive: http://www.theweek.co.uk/technology/61701/yotaphone-2-review-the-e-...

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Tue 27th Jan 2015 20:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Apologies, clarity of that statement slipped -- unlike The Batman, in order to kill the iPhone, one must not become the iPhone. There is a large market who don't want complicated phones, nor do they want to charge them every day.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by jpkx1984 on Tue 27th Jan 2015 21:47 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
jpkx1984 Member since:
2015-01-06

E-ink does not prevent FB, chat etc. E-ink needs a dedicated UI. Client applications will have to ditch animations (sliding, scrolling) which are not essential to using these services. On smartphone one uses application anyway. It is true such UI won't be iPhoney but... I see little point in creating yet another iP clone in already saturated market. Such a device would be great outdoors. I tried to mount my phone on the bike and ended up with... an extra cable to a power bank (as it won't last on the battery until the end of a typical ride) and poor readibility in direct sunlight (full backlight). Such a phone would be also useful during longer voyages as a replacement for e-book reader. I am sure many people will prefer better reading experience to better FB scrolling. One more thing: for some users smartphone UIs are flashy mess, too confusing.

Edited 2015-01-27 22:01 UTC

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Price
by CapEnt on Tue 27th Jan 2015 01:07 UTC
CapEnt
Member since:
2005-12-18

If the price tag was not such rip-off, this would be a success.

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Comment by foobaz
by foobaz on Tue 27th Jan 2015 04:30 UTC
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2009-12-05

I think the price is reasonable, considering the low-volume niche nature of the product. I just wish it had Displayport or something instead of USB.

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Atari ST like audioediting
by lispykid on Tue 27th Jan 2015 08:15 UTC
lispykid
Member since:
2009-02-02

This reminds me of my Atari ST days where I did audioediting with Cubase on its marvelous BW-display...

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RE: Atari ST like audioediting
by Kochise on Tue 27th Jan 2015 11:40 UTC in reply to "Atari ST like audioediting"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03
Interesting
by jpkx1984 on Tue 27th Jan 2015 08:40 UTC
jpkx1984
Member since:
2015-01-06

I hope it will pave the way for other e-ink solutions. While we have learned to make power-efficient SoCs, displays remain huge battery drainers.

Edited 2015-01-27 08:41 UTC

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USB-Charging is the interesting thing?
by avgalen on Tue 27th Jan 2015 08:56 UTC
avgalen
Member since:
2010-09-23

"The interesting thing about the PaperLike is that it uses so little energy that it doesn't even need to be plugged into its own power source. It connects to a laptop or desktop computer simply with a USB cable, and it gets enough power through the USB to refresh the screen."

There are entire > 20" monitors that get their charge and data over old fashioned USB 2.0 ports. If this is what they advertise as being interesting they need a new marketing department.

How about "After charging it for 30 minutes with any standard USB-port you can use it for 30 days?"

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Quite useful to some
by Adurbe on Tue 27th Jan 2015 12:39 UTC
Adurbe
Member since:
2005-07-06

A family memeber of mine suffers with photosensitive epilepsy and often transfers documents to a kindle to read them as it does not cause him headaches like reading off a standard monitor for long periods of time..

Although expensive (at the moment) this could be ideal for him and others in a similar situation.


Just thinking aloud, another use case I envisage is possibly to carry with you to plug into headless servers while on site rather than trying to plug in power supplies and monitors (a faff of a situation i've encountered more than once in the past).

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Re:
by kurkosdr on Tue 27th Jan 2015 14:22 UTC
kurkosdr
Member since:
2011-04-11

Yes, yes, yes!

A display that doesn't fire light in your eyes, making electronic content more tiring for the eyes than printed content.

Also, no talk about brightness levels and contrast, no backlight or OLED elememts battling your room's ambient light during the day.

As a person who lives in a mediterranean country in a room with big windows... this is good.

PS: Yes the price is a bit too much, but everything gets gradually cheaper in our industry. And it's still a good buy if you do lots of work or reading in front of the computer.

Edited 2015-01-27 14:25 UTC

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RE: Re:
by Kochise on Tue 27th Jan 2015 15:52 UTC in reply to "Re:"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

eInk is out for quite a long time now. Have they dared to invest more on this technology instead to go full berserk on Retina stuff, perhaps it would be more wide spread now. And do not expect prices to drop before a concurrent/better technology be developped first, they'll milk the cow as long as possible. See the LCD cartel trials to get an idea...

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32 inch high-res panel
by bugmenot on Wed 28th Jan 2015 02:02 UTC in reply to "Re:"
bugmenot Member since:
2006-02-26

If only somebody would also make a consumer display using a monochrome version of the larger 32-inch 2560 x 1440 panel shown earlier last year.

http://goodereader.com/blog/e-paper/e-ink-unveils-32-inch-color-dig...

Its hard to say without sitting in front of it, but it seems like it could be wonderful to use.

Edited 2015-01-28 02:05 UTC

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Where's the (even limited) colour version?
by torp on Tue 27th Jan 2015 16:10 UTC
torp
Member since:
2010-08-10

I could live with 8-16 colours, all i want is to still have syntax highlighting for my code ;)

IMO the LCD displays we get these days have sharper text than the CRTs they replaced, but to get decent contrast they have to crank the backlight way up, which is more tiring than ye olde CRT.

When I work, I could do with 2 e-ink displays, and one lcd to the side for the actual application testing.

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Zbigniew Member since:
2008-08-28

And I agree for monochrome. Seriously! Just I can't pay that much; I have to wait, until they lower the price. And not "a bit" - but significantly rather.

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What I always wanted
by biffuz on Wed 28th Jan 2015 17:35 UTC
biffuz
Member since:
2006-03-27

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY

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