Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Feb 2015 21:21 UTC
Amiga & AROS

In the last few months, Cloanto started distributing Amiga System Software - the publisher traditionally refers to it as "Workbench" instead of "AmigaOS" - on CF cards, Floppy Disks and as a downloadable Workbench Disk Image Pack. Approached by Amiga-News, Cloanto's Michael Battilana confirmed that the company owns the copyrights for all works created by the Commodore/Amiga companies up to 1993.

That seems like Cloanto now owns everything - but nothing could be farther from the truth, as the article details. Pieces of Amiga-related intellectual property are currently owned by three different companies, and there are also a few things with an unclear status.

Cynically, you could rephrase the headline as 'Amiga IP ownership situation gets little less messy'.

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Probably Not A Bad Thing
by Pro-Competition on Fri 20th Feb 2015 22:08 UTC
Pro-Competition
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2007-08-20

Of all of the commercial entities relating to the Amiga, Cloanto probably has the cleanest record, so this is probably a positive development.

It's also interesting that this applies to Commodore's non-Amiga products as well. I don't know if it has any practical implications or not, but it's good to know the status.

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RE: Probably Not A Bad Thing
by Kroc on Sat 21st Feb 2015 10:30 UTC in reply to "Probably Not A Bad Thing"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

I wonder what that means for our creepy friends Commodore USA?

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RE[2]: Probably Not A Bad Thing
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 21st Feb 2015 10:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Probably Not A Bad Thing"
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2005-06-29

They no longer exist. Barry Altman passed away in 2012.

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RE: Probably Not A Bad Thing
by zima on Wed 25th Feb 2015 19:23 UTC in reply to "Probably Not A Bad Thing"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

It's also interesting that this applies to Commodore's non-Amiga products as well. I don't know if it has any practical implications or not, but it's good to know the status.

I wonder if/when Cloanto will go after VICE... (the emulator of various Commodore's 8-bit machines; its downloads on SourceForge include the firmwares)

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Amiga has been...
by Dano on Sat 21st Feb 2015 02:12 UTC
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2006-01-22

dead for a long time and the technology has been eclipsed a long time ago. RIP Amiga.

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madcrow
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2006-03-13

...than a few months. Their Amiga Forever package has been the canonical legal way to get ROM images and OS software for use in emulators for roughly a decade.

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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Sat 21st Feb 2015 10:38 UTC
Kroc
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2005-11-10

Can I haz Commodore 64/128 SOC laptop plz? No emulation, a real C64 ASIC with built in 16MB RAM expansion and SD card drive. I'm sure you could Kickstart it.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by Dano on Sat 21st Feb 2015 12:43 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
Dano Member since:
2006-01-22

Sure you can... I already own one... but it's pretty heavy for your lap...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_SX-64

I have to argue that the C64 still has a bigger following than the Amiga. It's just more fun all around. You are not familiar with these computers are you? SD card drive is already available for a real C64.

Edited 2015-02-21 12:45 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Sat 21st Feb 2015 12:45 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

A modern C64 laptop exists (The C64p)
http://awesome.commodore.me/about/kitty/commodore-c64p-review/

But I'd want something more official with the correct keyboard layout (PETSCII) and better build quality.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by judgen on Sun 22nd Feb 2015 09:47 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
judgen Member since:
2006-07-12

Ben Heckendorn built a C64 laptop that looks not just good, it looks great!

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by jpkx1984 on Sun 22nd Feb 2015 15:50 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
jpkx1984 Member since:
2015-01-06

Why do you want 16 MB RAM in a "real" C64 machine? The 6510 MOS CPU cannot address more than 64 kB.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Sun 22nd Feb 2015 19:21 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

RAM Expansion Unit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_REU - Works through paging

See this for practical uses of 16MB of RAM on a C64 ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0TFsyR4YL8

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RE[3]: Comment by Kroc
by zima on Wed 25th Feb 2015 19:20 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Kroc"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

"practical"? ;)

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