Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 25th Jun 2015 22:36 UTC
Intel

The Clear Linux Project for Intel Architecture is a project that is building a Linux OS distribution for various cloud use cases. The goal of Clear Linux OS is to showcase the best of Intel Architecture technology, from low-level kernel features to more complex items that span across the entire operating system stack.

Don't dismiss it - Intel is doing a lot of interesting under-the-hood stuff with this one.

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CoreOS?
by Vanders on Thu 25th Jun 2015 22:59 UTC
Vanders
Member since:
2005-07-06

How is this any different to what CoreOS is already doing?

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RE: CoreOS?
by kwan_e on Thu 25th Jun 2015 23:39 UTC in reply to "CoreOS?"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

It's different because it's an Intel promotional project for promoting Intel products.

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RE[2]: CoreOS?
by The123king on Fri 26th Jun 2015 00:38 UTC in reply to "RE: CoreOS?"
The123king Member since:
2009-05-28

I don't see why you should be so dismissive of a company designing products based on other products in their portfolio. Do you criticize MS for developing Office for Windows, or Apple for developing OS X for their computers? I for one support our Intel brethren for (hopefully) developing a highly optimized OS for their own processors. Maybe it might teach others who use Intel's products a thing or two...

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RE[3]: CoreOS?
by kwan_e on Fri 26th Jun 2015 02:58 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: CoreOS?"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

I don't see why you should be so dismissive


How was I being dismissive? I was repeating what the summary said. It's dismissive to repeat facts now?

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RE[4]: CoreOS?
by Kochise on Fri 26th Jun 2015 07:52 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: CoreOS?"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

Looks like a dejavu :

if(check_cpuid("GeunuineIntel") == true)

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RE[3]: CoreOS?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 26th Jun 2015 15:16 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: CoreOS?"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

While the parent was not being dismissive, I'm not as comfortable having companies restricted to a particular sub architecture. Not even x86_64 specific, but intel x86_64 specific. In general Linux is mostly agnostic about architecture, which is a good thing.

But really, if its just a showcase for intel, without any real plan to commercialize, that's cool. Many of the intel specific extensions to x86 eventually end up in AMD.

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RE: CoreOS?
by _xmv on Fri 26th Jun 2015 15:58 UTC in reply to "CoreOS?"
_xmv Member since:
2008-12-09

clr is different from coreos. in fact, it uses parts of coreos (and coreos could use/will most likely use parts of clr).

clr uses vt-x to its fullest, and DAX for disk access. it also uses coreo's rkt. The result is a fast-booting, low-memory-footprint, fast IO VM that you can use like a container, only more secure, isolated. (bonus points: isolated networking is faster than with docker)


Note: intel is the primary kernel contributor. nobody contributes more than intel, so i'd get off your high horses. vt-x also works on AMD.

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Crap on Opteron
by CaptainN- on Fri 26th Jun 2015 01:31 UTC
CaptainN-
Member since:
2005-07-07

I wonder how it'll run on Opteron CPUs...

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RE: Crap on Opteron
by Adurbe on Fri 26th Jun 2015 11:12 UTC in reply to "Crap on Opteron"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't suppose they will check or care... Nor do I feel they Should.

If I'm optimizing the 3rd party software for my hardware that's all I care about. If AMD want to optimize linux for their CPU, AMD are More than welcome to spend time (and money) doing so. But it is unreasonable to expect Intel to do it for them.

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RE[2]: Crap on Opteron
by Kochise on Fri 26th Jun 2015 11:31 UTC in reply to "RE: Crap on Opteron"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

Provided there is a difference between optimizing for your hardware and crippling the software for the third party hardware.

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RE: Crap on Opteron
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 26th Jun 2015 19:43 UTC in reply to "Crap on Opteron"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

I wonder who buys opterons these days ...

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RE[2]: Crap on Opteron
by Kochise on Fri 26th Jun 2015 20:28 UTC in reply to "RE: Crap on Opteron"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

I was always intrigued how AMD often presented clever architectures that should have outmatched their competitors, yet Intel almost always replied with 'dirty' hacks that indeed rendered their processor faster, if not more power efficient.

If only AMD drivers were better and more 'open', at least they would have a positive point :/

BTW, three of my five PCs have AMD processor in them (Athlon XP, A8-3500M, E350) the other two are C7 and Atom 330 ;) Yeah, I'm not a power monger...

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RE[3]: Crap on Opteron
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 26th Jun 2015 21:00 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Crap on Opteron"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

It seems like AMD is less expensive for desktops, but the performance has much to be desired. I just resorted to buying my first Intel desktop processor since 1998. I couldn't justify the outlay for an AMD, given the performance.

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RE: Crap on Opteron
by Soulbender on Mon 29th Jun 2015 03:38 UTC in reply to "Crap on Opteron"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Maybe it runs on Itanium....
Hahaha, just kidding. Nothing runs on Itanium and no one runs Itanium.

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by Anonymous on Sat 4th Jul 2015 06:09 UTC