Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Fri 7th Mar 2003 18:30 UTC, submitted by AnyWeb
Windows OSNews reader "AnyWeb" claims that both his Longhorn splash screen and its signature of Longhorn has turned into "Longhorn XP Media Center" (screenshot) after fiddling a bit with some settings. Read more about his explanation on how it happened.
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Changes name, what about functionality
by Kai on Fri 7th Mar 2003 18:43 UTC

Wait, you mean if alpha software only half-installs and changes the name but probably nothing else, it means something? If you fiddle enough, I bet you could get that desktop letters to say just about anything...

sorry if you cant connect
by anyweb on Fri 7th Mar 2003 18:47 UTC

but my website is running iis 5.1 and that only accepts 10 connections concurrently

try later.....

cheers

anyweb

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by weeman on Fri 7th Mar 2003 18:52 UTC

So what? You can potentially also turn it into Enterprise Server. Requires also only somewhat fiddling with the registry.

Give me a break!
by chris on Fri 7th Mar 2003 19:06 UTC

> but my website is running iis 5.1 and that only accepts 10 connections concurrently

For gawd sakes...can someone say Apache!

for loads and loads of hits... i'll certaintly consider implementing apache now though ,

apologies again for any/all connection problems that was not my intention at all,

mirrored the pics here (not my machine)

http://home.sol.se/chris

cheers

Re: Give me a break!
by Jim on Fri 7th Mar 2003 19:29 UTC

"For gawd sakes...can someone say Apache!"

I would guess he is running IIS on his desktop and accepts only 10 connections because he is on a dialup. I hope you are trolling but Apache is really not going to give him more bandwidth. Maybe instead he should install some _real_ graphics software and compress that .jpg to save bandwidth.

sorry (last time)
by anyweb on Fri 7th Mar 2003 19:38 UTC
Re: Give me a break
by Nacs on Fri 7th Mar 2003 19:43 UTC

Jim--Sure he probably is running IIS on his desktop and maybe (doubtful) on a dialup (I'd think it's broadband at least). But the 10 simultaneous connections is a limitation of the IIS that comes with non server editions of Windows NT-based systems (like XP professional). It's a limitation that MS put in that will be removed if you upgrade to XP Server or 2k Server and higher.

So his recommendation to use Apache stands.

Give "anyweb a break"
by Chris on Fri 7th Mar 2003 19:52 UTC

Why on eart do you have to complain about what web server anyweb is runnig?? The guy just found something and reported it!! why cant you say," thats intresting" instead of slagging him off? when was the last time YOU reported something??????

Windows "Branding" has nothing to do with the OS
by Ed Holden on Fri 7th Mar 2003 20:00 UTC

Doesn't surprise me. NT 4.0 Workstation could be turned into NT Server, with the right regsitry hacks. This was discovered after Microsoft swore that the kernels of each OS were inherently different - in fact a binary comparison shows them to be identical. This will probably be the same for the OS that sprouts from Longhorn.

<p>The truth is, if you buy any high-end Windows you're basically getting the Home Edition without the high-end features disabled. The only difference betweens Windows distributions is the intended audience, the price that audience paid, and the limitations that are enabled or disabled for that price.

<p>You can run a web server or file server with unlimited connections on a GNU/Linux box. And you don't have to ask anyone's permission to activate it. This is not a difference in technical ability - it's pure versioning and licensing.

Switch
by element on Fri 7th Mar 2003 20:20 UTC

You can even even change Win2k Pro into Win2k Server with a simpel program that changes 2 registry settings. I've done it and it works. Run the program again and it switches back.
Cool stuff :-)
And to say MS asks twice or tripple or i don't know how much more for the server version.

re:Switch
by rockwell on Fri 7th Mar 2003 20:39 UTC

//You can even even change Win2k Pro into Win2k Server with a simpel program that changes 2 registry settings. I've done it and it works. Run the program again and it switches back.
Cool stuff :-)
//

Your proof is posted ... where?

Bullocks.

are we missing the point??
by Chris on Fri 7th Mar 2003 20:48 UTC

Sorry to intrude on the discussion, but are't we missing the point of this headline? What is " FreeStyle" going to be anyway?

v Who cares???
by Andy on Fri 7th Mar 2003 20:56 UTC
Re: Getting desparate for news items?
by Anonymous on Fri 7th Mar 2003 21:32 UTC

I have to say this news item is pretty bad. The fact that you can do this has been known for a long time and worked back with the first leaked Longhorn. Of cours MS is going to keep Media Center up with XP in terms of code base because all Media Center is is an addition to XP. Nothing fundamental about the OS is different. You get 2 services and a application.

They do stuff like that all the time
by Romi Kuntsman on Fri 7th Mar 2003 21:39 UTC

And it's not because it's beta in development...

Windows XP Pro can be turned into server and vica versa by just a few registry hack. This affect features, recognition by application (as to whether it's server or workstation), and also identficiation and splash screen.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24566.html

To me it seems that Windows always includes a lot of junk and stuff that are not used. I guess microsoft haven't heard of conditional compiling... :-

Desktop/Server switchs
by Joe P on Fri 7th Mar 2003 22:39 UTC

MSFT uses the same base for all their products (ie: Win2k Pro and Win2k Server). The main difference is in the bundled software.

Server:
0) Desktop +
1) Additional network protocals to allow working better with Macs and Unix.
2) Additional tools for testing network status.
3) Less limitations on the number of concurent users.

Media Center:
0) Desktop +
1) Media Command Center application
2) drivers to talk to external media devices.

Of course you don't want to make packaging too hard, so you just throw in all the extra graphics and screens into a base system and use the register to control which one the system should be identified as. Then you just need to bundle the extra stuff on the correct CD.

Nice find
by A-dam on Fri 7th Mar 2003 23:06 UTC

Nice 1 anyweb.

it works.
by A-dam on Fri 7th Mar 2003 23:29 UTC

I have tested this and it does work..:)

Re:Switch
by element on Sat 8th Mar 2003 00:05 UTC

"Your proof is posted ... where?

Bullocks."

Search for a file called NTswitch.zip
You don't have to believe me, but I tried it and it works, the bootup screen even changes to the server bootup screen. It doesn't work with XP pro (i didn't try that), but I know it works with Win2k.

Re:switch
by element on Sat 8th Mar 2003 00:10 UTC

Ok, searched for it myself.

http://www.astalavista.com/tools/network/misc/ (at the bottom of the page)
If you speak french:
http://ndfr.free.fr/downloads.php?dir=Divers
http://content.443.ch/pub/security/blackhat/Exploits/NT/

Just type in google ntswitch.zip and those pages are all on the 1st page in Google.

Windows + Media = Windows Media
by Majik Fox on Sat 8th Mar 2003 02:02 UTC

If you have Windows, and you install Media Center extesions, you get Media Center Edition. It doesn't take a degree in obvious to figure that out. Why is this article in existance? It makes my head hurt.

2cds?
by OenBSD-YAY on Sat 8th Mar 2003 02:03 UTC

Wow cool hacks.... Longhorn will have 2CDs? More like Linux ;)
Gotta wait

Old news...
by Anonymous on Sat 8th Mar 2003 10:44 UTC

I did this with the last LH leak.It asks for CD 2, which is just the Media edition CD. If your fortunate enough to have that (and I do) you can have a full blown LH Media centre install. Though why you would want it lord alone knows. Its way too buggy still to use.

Q

ID10T
by gtw_tech on Sat 8th Mar 2003 14:32 UTC

I get the feeling around here that people saaaayyy they know a lot about computers but they dont. Not everyone, just a few..

If XP bitches about "disc 2" point it to the i386 directory on your "c" drive. This almost always, always works for windows components.



RE: ID10T
by Stephen Smith on Sat 8th Mar 2003 14:35 UTC

From a previous article I think I read somewhere that the CD doesn't have an i386 directory, so I'd assume that it doesn't install one, either.

hmm
by gtw_tech on Sat 8th Mar 2003 14:42 UTC

if it's listed in the windows components dir, the cabs are there somewhere.

Re Old news...
by Anonymous on Sat 8th Mar 2003 15:38 UTC

Well all i did was put in the media centre CD (I think that comes on two CDs, but I confess the version I 'aquired' didn't). It worked fine with that.

Look it up on the net. Lots of people did it first time around.

Q :-)

Psychology
by gtw_tech on Sat 8th Mar 2003 17:25 UTC

Anyone ever wonder about the psychology of "aquiring" this stuff? I mean.. I guess I don't understand the benefit of installing a pre-alpha, no features, version of X, Y, Z OS...


NTSwitch
by Bayerwerke on Sun 9th Mar 2003 03:02 UTC

If you use NTSwitch on NT, also check out Frob from Sysinternals.

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/frob.shtml

For Win2K see;

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/info/nt5.shtml

TweakNT 1.21 is better than NTSwitch
by k_semler on Mon 10th Mar 2003 05:37 UTC

With Tweak NT you can also switch between specific versions of Windows within that production line. For instance, you can switch Windows 2000 Pro into Windows 2000 Enterprize server, DataCenter server, Pro, Server. You can also remove timebombs from trial biulds of any NT based system, and also add a timebomb to a biuld if desired.

TweakNT 1.21 is better than NTSwitch
by k_semler on Mon 10th Mar 2003 05:40 UTC

With Tweak NT you can also switch between specific versions of Windows within that production line. For instance, you can switch Windows 2000 Pro into Windows 2000 Enterprize server, DataCenter server, Pro, Server. You can also remove timebombs from trial biulds of any NT based system, and also add a timebomb to a biuld if desired. You can get this little item on irc.winbeta.org. Log into the channel #winbeta