Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 19th Jun 2017 22:04 UTC
Debian and its clones

In Stretch, the default MySQL variant is now MariaDB. The replacement of packages for MySQL 5.5 or 5.6 by the MariaDB 10.1 variant will happen automatically upon upgrade.

Firefox and Thunderbird return to Debian with the release of Stretch, and replace their debranded versions Iceweasel and Icedove, which were present in the archive for more than 10 years.

In addition, Debian GNU/Hurd also has a new release.

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MariaDB
by WorknMan on Mon 19th Jun 2017 22:26 UTC
WorknMan
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2005-11-13

I'm out of the loop on MariaDB. Why are they replacing MySQL with it now, as opposed to several years ago when it was first forked? (Which, according to Wikipedia, was in 2009.)

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RE: MariaDB
by galvanash on Tue 20th Jun 2017 00:52 UTC in reply to "MariaDB"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

I'm out of the loop on MariaDB. Why are they replacing MySQL with it now, as opposed to several years ago when it was first forked? (Which, according to Wikipedia, was in 2009.)


Cause Debian releases are sllloooowwww. They probably did do it in 2009 or shortly thereafter - its just now hitting a release.

edit: nevermind. I see what they did. They have had a package for both MySql and MariaDB for a few releases now. They also had a "mysql-server" package that just pointed to the latest stable MySql version.

What they did was change this so that the package "mysql-server" now installs MariaDB instead. You can still install either by referencing the actual package instead of this meta package.

Guess they figured its time to start moving away from MySql a bit more forcefully...

Edited 2017-06-20 01:03 UTC

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RE: MariaDB
by tonny on Sat 24th Jun 2017 11:18 UTC in reply to "MariaDB"
tonny Member since:
2011-12-22

IMHO, they focus more to backward compatibility, and maturity of the package (MariaDB).

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Firefox switch was yonks ago
by BushLin on Mon 19th Jun 2017 23:09 UTC
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2011-01-26

I remember Debian swapping Iceweasel for unmodified firefox-esr around a year ago, seems odd for that to be a highlight for the new release.

I also remember thinking "that's a shame", since Iceweasel made some good choices in terms of default settings for privacy; I'm surprised that Debian have still to do anything to remedy the situation despite reports to them.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=827395

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Debian Edu / SkoleLinux also
by tingo on Tue 20th Jun 2017 12:08 UTC
tingo
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2007-10-13

Debian Edu / SkoleLinux also has a new release:
https://lwn.net/Articles/725828/

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Hurd for the win
by Poseidon on Tue 20th Jun 2017 19:21 UTC
Poseidon
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2009-10-31

Ah, thank you for that Hurd tidbit, I will be giving it quite the test run.

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Boring
by Peter Besenbruch on Thu 22nd Jun 2017 22:35 UTC
Peter Besenbruch
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2006-03-13

I run a file server/scanning desktop, plus a number of other laptops. I have been updating them to Stretch. I have also done a couple of clean installs, one in a Dell XPS 13. The latter came with Ubuntu 16.04. Unfortunately, the wireless networking would not work. Stretch got it working at install time.

In short, I have had a boring time with Debian Stretch. I like boring.

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Kudos to the Debian Teams and Community...
by dionicio on Fri 23rd Jun 2017 14:04 UTC
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2006-07-12

Grateful about seeing i386 still there, also. I%D :-)

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