Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Jul 2017 22:25 UTC
Google

Google operates a little-known program to harness the brain power of university researchers to help sway opinion and public policy, cultivating financial relationships with professors at campuses from Harvard University to the University of California, Berkeley.

Over the past decade, Google has helped finance hundreds of research papers to defend against regulatory challenges of its market dominance, paying $5,000 to $400,000 for the work, The Wall Street Journal found.

This is some next-level manipulation. I wasn't kidding when I said we, as a society, need to look at the amount of power we have let corporations gather up. This kind of influence isn't healthy for society.

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Too late
by Dr.Cyber on Tue 11th Jul 2017 23:19 UTC
Dr.Cyber
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2017-06-17

Private corporations already have full control in the US. The Federal Reserve (which is not federal and has relatively few reserves) pays the government, making the government just a bunch of hired thugs for private bankers.

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RE: Too late
by avgalen on Wed 12th Jul 2017 07:18 UTC in reply to "Too late"
avgalen Member since:
2010-09-23

no no no, you got that all wrong. You see they now elected a president who was self-funding and doesn't accept a salary so their leader is completely independent from all this money-influencing-government and he is going to drain the swamp and make America great again

/s

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RE[2]: Too late
by Kochise on Thu 13th Jul 2017 08:36 UTC in reply to "RE: Too late"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

For french readers, get to know where your taxes are evading to :

https://www.nextinpact.com/news/104769-google-evite-redressement-mon...

https://www.google.fr/maps/search/google+france

I assure you they have a "stable" position in France, they event painted their bars :

https://www.google.fr/maps/@48.8768791,2.3299149,3a,28.3y,42.28h,86....

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RE[3]: Too late
by avgalen on Thu 13th Jul 2017 11:52 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Too late"
avgalen Member since:
2010-09-23

It is an interesting article that is also in the international media: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/12/google-taxes-fran...

However, it doesn't have anything to do with the topic of influencing politics by "buying scientists"

And your article is about evaded taxes between 2005-2010, while your linked Google building seems to be from after that timeframe: https://googleblog.blogspot.nl/2011/12/inaugurating-our-new-french.h...
The way they dodged those taxes does seem ridiculous, but except for my gut feeling I have no evidence of any wrongdoing here

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RE[2]: Too late
by Dr.Cyber on Sun 16th Jul 2017 21:22 UTC in reply to "RE: Too late"
Dr.Cyber Member since:
2017-06-17

no no no, you got that all wrong. You see they now elected a president who was self-funding and doesn't accept a salary so their leader is completely independent from all this money-influencing-government and he is going to drain the swamp and make America great again

/s

Whoever controls the money supply controls the country. There is no getting around it. Trump too will need the Federal Reserve to print more money for him. So he too will need to be a good boy and obey.

Besides if Trump really gets independent he will be assasinated like JFK was and then a new puppet will be put in his place.

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Article is behind a paywall
by avgalen on Wed 12th Jul 2017 07:26 UTC
avgalen
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2010-09-23

I would love to comment more on topic, but I cannot because, well, WSJ ;)

From the summary I couldn't see any problem until the final "to defend against regulatory challenges of its market dominance"

Can anyone with access provide some examples of what kind of papers we are talking about here?

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This Ailment...
by dionicio on Wed 12th Jul 2017 15:56 UTC
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Member since:
2006-07-12

Is Child of Preponderance, not Corporatism.

Been happening long before Google/Alphabet.

Nations have lost a lot of extremely intelligent people going other paths, on contemplating this servile attitude at the academic environment.

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Too much power
by darknexus on Wed 12th Jul 2017 16:02 UTC
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2008-07-15

Personally, I get worried any large entity or conglomerate holds too much power. Governments and corporations are, when you break them down, essentially the same: run by people with their own interests at heart, and out to support themselves. The only real difference, as I see it, between corporations and governments are that governments pretend they do it to serve you while businesses are honest about their desire to make money. Both amazingly good things and horrible atrocities have come out of both government and business alike, so I'm not going to pretend that either is better.

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