Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 2nd Sep 2017 00:39 UTC
Windows

The Windows 10 Fall Creators Update now has a release date: October 17. Microsoft started finalizing the release last week, and we'd expect this release to follow the pattern seen in previous Windows updates: the final build will be done some time in September and roll out to members of the Windows Insider program's fast, slow, and release preview rings. Then it will hit Windows Update. From there, we'd expect a slow ramp up in availability.

Not the most substantial Windows update for regular users, but I do like the faster update cycle for Windows. I'm glad the monolithic releases of yore are gone for most users, while enterprise users are still able to opt for the Long Term Servicing Branch for the more monolithic approach.

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Breaking bad
by Cutterman on Sat 2nd Sep 2017 12:07 UTC
Cutterman
Member since:
2006-04-10

I wonder what THIS one will break.

1703 necessitated a clean reinstall.

Mac

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RE: Breaking bad
by shotsman on Sat 2nd Sep 2017 17:41 UTC in reply to "Breaking bad"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

What will it break?

Too much to mention if past updates are anything to go by.
The worst thing other than the stability is their insistence in removing all your nice little customisations especially the ones to stop the telemetary slurping.

MS really do need to stop doing this. We own the computer not you (unless it is a Surface which in this case, the jury is out)

They are really flogging the Surface on UK TV at the moment. Fiddling while rome burns perhaps?

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RE: Breaking bad
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 5th Sep 2017 15:20 UTC in reply to "Breaking bad"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Don't install Windows on Mac hardware, its never really worked well. Drivers are always a mess.

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Not a Fan of the Faster Update Cycle
by subsider34 on Sat 2nd Sep 2017 19:31 UTC
subsider34
Member since:
2010-11-08

This new update cycle is so fast its becoming confusing. New system apps are introduced, renamed, depreciated, replaced, and removed within just a few years.

Hot Keys are changed without providing updated documentation (or documenting they exist at all). This is particularly irksome for the included windows apps like Edge.

Media Licensing systems are removed wholesale while notice is provided only via a faulty message box.

Frankly it feels like they're pushing updates far faster than they can document them and never going back to fix that. I know this has always been the case with their command line stuff, but before now I've never seen it in their flagship programs. It's making everything confusing as hell.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Edge is for suckers. I left Microsoft browsers when ie 6 was still king, not going back for the world. Trust has to be earned. They've made a lot of improvements, but I need to see the continual investment over a longer period of time.

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LTSB now Long Term Servicing Channel
by garyd on Sun 3rd Sep 2017 07:13 UTC
garyd
Member since:
2008-10-22

Enterprise "Windows as a service" customers now have the option of a semi-annual release of two varieties and the long term channel. I hope this is the last time they change the terminology.

http://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2017/07/27/waas-sim...

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Comment by ple_mono
by ple_mono on Tue 5th Sep 2017 00:22 UTC
ple_mono
Member since:
2005-07-26

Say what you want about windows (before 10). But it was never a moving target, and i really really appreciated that. Who in their right mind want a rolling release in a production setting? I mean Microsoft is even proactively talking people out of using the LTSB flavor (or making it near impossible for individuals to get their hands on it).

I just don't get it. It does not compute for me. Before there was some chaos between releases. Like every 5 years or so. Now it's more constant. Who want's that? If you could choose, would you choose a couple hard punches every few years or a constant dull pain every minute of your waking life? Maybe i'm just weird. But i would totally choose the former. The latter is for masochists IMHO...

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RE: Comment by ple_mono
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 5th Sep 2017 15:24 UTC in reply to "Comment by ple_mono"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

No, I feel your pain, but I prefer the faster pace. Things that are broken are getting fixed faster, instead of a "Oh well, that will be fixed in the next release 3-4 years from now" attitude that used to prevail. Also, I'm from a time where an internet explorer service pack would kill or fix my application. On tier three support calls, I'd have to walk them through figuring out which version of xml packages they had, and correct it to work with our app.

Reply Score: 2