Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 7th Sep 2017 16:10 UTC, submitted by henderson101
Apple

Remember when Scotty Allen built his own iPhone from parts bought in Shenzhen? This time around, he ups the ante and adds a headphone jack to an iPhone 7. He had to design his own custom circuit board, have it printed, and build it into his iPhone 7. It's an amazing project, and it's an incredibly interesting 30 minute video.

I've spent the past four months in Shenzhen, China, modifying an iPhone 7 to add a fully functional headphone jack. To the best of my knowledge, this is the first time anyone has done anything like this.

In April, I decided to finally upgrade my iPhone 6s to an iPhone7 to get better camera quality for the videos I was shooting when I was out on adventures in the industrial markets and manufacturing world. But I was super annoyed that it doesn't have a headphone jack! I already have headphones I really liked, and I didn’t like the idea of having to keep track of an adapter just to use them.

So I figured I'd add my own - after all, how hard could it be?

It turns out, really really hard. But possible.

He sent the circuit board he designed and built to Apple, and open sourced all the schematics needed so those with the right tools and expertise can build it at home.

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Too much work
by WorknMan on Thu 7th Sep 2017 16:21 UTC
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

He could've just bought a Google Pixel or Galaxy phone and saved himself the trouble ;) Why reward Apple for removing a feature you really wanted?

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RE: Too much work
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 7th Sep 2017 16:34 UTC in reply to "Too much work"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

He could've just bought a Google Pixel or Galaxy phone and saved himself the trouble ;) Why reward Apple for removing a feature you really wanted?


Because it's an incredibly fun thing to do?

I'm jealous I don't have the skills (and living location) required to do this.

Reply Score: 4

v RE: Too much work
by darknexus on Thu 7th Sep 2017 17:55 UTC in reply to "Too much work"
RE[2]: Too much work
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 7th Sep 2017 18:00 UTC in reply to "RE: Too much work"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Android devices don't even last a day under normal usage, let alone that.


My S7 Edge last for days. This is such a "your mileage may vary" thing that absolute statements like yours are meaningless.

Oh yeah, and their apps are far less capable, on average, than the apps designed for iOS.


On tablets, no doubt. On phones? Eh. Not so much. iOS phone applications tend to have these horrible custom UIs with weird designs and custom icons that nobody else uses (consistency is unheard of on iOS), and inter-app communication is still utter garbage on iOS, greatly reducing the usefulness of iOS applications in day-to-day use.

This, too, is far too personal for absolute statements. It's not 2011 anymore.

Reply Score: 4

RE[3]: Too much work
by CaptainN- on Thu 7th Sep 2017 20:25 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Too much work"
CaptainN- Member since:
2005-07-07

There is a blanket statement we can make - flagship Android devices (those in the same price range as iOS devices) do get very good battery life.

Yeah, the crappy Android phones all skimp and save on various components, but if you are willing to spend for an iPhone, and you spend similarly for Android, you'll get similar performance. And all the apps are the same at this point - anything worth a damn has been ported to Android at this point, and as Thom pointed out, often it has better interoperability with other apps.

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RE[4]: Too much work
by Morgan on Thu 7th Sep 2017 21:28 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Too much work"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Yeah, the crappy Android phones all skimp and save on various components, but if you are willing to spend for an iPhone, and you spend similarly for Android, you'll get similar performance.


I think Apple woke up to this reality, which is why we have the iPhone SE. It gives you good battery life and all the same features as the flagship iPhones at half the cost, and still has that glorious headphone jack.

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RE[5]: Too much work
by WorknMan on Thu 7th Sep 2017 23:04 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Too much work"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

I think Apple woke up to this reality, which is why we have the iPhone SE.


I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE the iPhone SE. I have it as a work phone, and usually take it instead of my Pixel when I just need to access my Keep list or something, due to how much more pocket friendly it is. Only problem with it is that it runs iOS ;)

Reply Score: 4

RE[6]: Too much work
by roytam1 on Mon 11th Sep 2017 06:23 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Too much work"
roytam1 Member since:
2014-06-01

There is a campaign in indiegogo for making 60mm-wide android smartphone.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/genesis-se-4-3-inch-compact-high-...

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RE[3]: Too much work
by flanque on Thu 7th Sep 2017 23:33 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Too much work"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

iOS phone applications tend to have these horrible custom UIs with weird designs and custom icons that nobody else uses (consistency is unheard of on iOS)

Bit of a reach there.

I'm struggling to think of a time where the iOS or application UIs (phone or tablet) have been inconsistent to the point of even being noticeable.

Thinking about it, I'm sure we could all show examples, but calling that out as being above or below other platforms doesn't seem to make sense to me.

Horrible and weird don't come to mind as adjectives to generalise about iOS.

Reply Score: 2

RE[4]: Too much work
by ahferroin7 on Fri 8th Sep 2017 12:17 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Too much work"
ahferroin7 Member since:
2015-10-30

THe whole 'shake to undo' thing comes to mind as a great example of inconsistency. It's not discoverable, not everything supports it, and you can't tell when trying to do it whether nothing is happening because you're not doing it correctly or it's just not supported.

Compared to Android's universally present back button that's a mandatory part of the system UI, I'd say that very much qualifies as inconsistent, and possibly also 'weird' depending on who you ask (and it absolutely is horrible UI design).

Reply Score: 4

RE[2]: Too much work
by slashdev on Thu 7th Sep 2017 19:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Too much work"
slashdev Member since:
2006-05-14

Having both an iphone 7plus and an Galaxy S7 Edge, the Edge runs circles around the iphone when actually doing things like GPS, long 4k video shoots and watching lots of high res videos on long flights, even listening to podcasts! you just cant compare 3,600mAh vs 2900mah batteries.

GSMArena has probably the most comprehensive battery tests out there:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7_edge-review-1409p3.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_7_plus-review-1506p3.php


With that said, Most android phones have tiny batteries, and horrible internal memory transfer rates (due to most only having 8GB or 16GB) so I can totally understand if people have never actually used a good android phone.

Also, A reason you'd want an iPhone is the same reason I have one, I have a lot invested in the apple ecosystem, plus I actually prefer the iOS UI most of the time (though android is improving at an amazing pace...if you are willing to pay to keep up).

I wonder if I could build an iPhone 7 Plus with a larger battery....thats gotta be easier than a headphone jack....

Reply Score: 5

RE[3]: Too much work
by XKCD on Fri 8th Sep 2017 07:32 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Too much work"
XKCD Member since:
2017-09-05

Having both an iphone 7plus and an Galaxy S7 Edge

You have TWO smartphones?.. Oh wow, I cannot stand even one for longer periods of time. I had many flagship smartphones, such as Samsung Galaxy S series, HTC's top of the line and more, and every time I end up going back to proper phone (with real buttons and 2" screen) in about half a year or so. I have now stopped trying and will not try any more smartphones in my life.

Also: http://www.bash.org/?952948

Edited 2017-09-08 07:32 UTC

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RE[4]: Too much work
by Fergy on Fri 8th Sep 2017 16:11 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Too much work"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

every time I end up going back to proper phone (with real buttons and 2" screen) in about half a year or so. I have now stopped trying and will not try any more smartphones in my life.

You don't use GPS, Music, Whatsapp, eMail, Webbrowsing, authentication, banking, Podcast, Youtube, Calendar?

Reply Score: 3

RE[4]: Too much work
by slashdev on Fri 8th Sep 2017 16:57 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Too much work"
slashdev Member since:
2006-05-14


You have TWO smartphones?.. Oh wow, I cannot stand even one for longer periods of time. I had many flagship smartphones, such as Samsung Galaxy S series, HTC's top of the line and more...


I actually have only 2 in regular use, and one that gets rotated in mostly because I am a developer (at least thats what I tell myself and my wallet...).

I used to have tons of separate commuting/travel devices (circa early 2000s): tablets, netbooks, handheld GPS, MP3 players, video players, game consoles, cameras. I think shrinking that footprint down to a smartphone or two has made me much happier.

I have an Iphone 7 Plus: due to needing an iOS device for dev and for some IoT devices, etc.

I have an LG V20. The user-replaceable battery is awesome and its now my goto travel and commute phone at the moment. I am quite sad that the V20 looks to be the last reasonable smartphone with a user-replaceable battery.

And I have a S7 Edge due to the amazing low light camera, and great general battery life, etc. It was my goto travel phone before the V20.

I plan to replace my S7 Edge with a Note 8 soon (or maybe sell it, and go back to "two" phones).

Reply Score: 3

Comment by Sidux
by Sidux on Fri 8th Sep 2017 19:56 UTC
Sidux
Member since:
2015-03-10

Excited to see it.
What people tend to forget about Apple is that they are still obsessed with making devices thinner and thinner.
Before going all in with lightning cable they did try to make the audio jack thinner.
Not sure if cost of water resistance killed off that idea or simply they went all in with the new W chips they started integrating with Beats audio.
If it ever ends in being a finished design it doesn't matter really. Just being able to do whatever you want to a phone you bought and own is worth it.

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Wow
by Poseidon on Sat 9th Sep 2017 05:20 UTC
Poseidon
Member since:
2009-10-31

That's some serious dedication. I wish apple takes it to consideration and perhaps custom phones too, like one without cameras with more battery life for corporate use?

One can dream. The only reason I'm staying with apple for the time being is heir incredibly long support for security updates. It is in many ways a better investment, and their physical security is also really good still.

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Could be easier
by ThomasFuhringer on Mon 11th Sep 2017 14:43 UTC
ThomasFuhringer
Member since:
2007-01-25

I know of a simpler way to retain hold of that headphone jack: Just get an Android phone.

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