Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 9th Sep 2017 12:03 UTC
Apple

9to5Mac is reporting on a leak of the iOS 11 GM release, which details quite a few things about the new iPhone we could only rumour and guess about up until now.

Here we go. W're digging through the iOS 11 GM we received this evening to unpack what we can learn about the D22 'iPhone 8' and the rest of the lineup ahead of Apple's big unveiling on Tuesday. It looks like the infamous HomePod leak left a few surprises for us after all.

The first discovery is a stunning set of new wallpapers coming with iOS 11 and the first look at the LTE Apple Watch. Next up: new and confirmed features coming to the OLED iPhone.

This is a major leak, and confirms several of the final details regarding the iPhone Pro or iPhone X or whatever the more expensive iPhone will be called. The leak confirms the removal of any form of home button - phyisical or virtual - replacing it with a gesture-based UI, as we talked about before. The power switch will also gain some new features, allowing you to set it up to control things like Siri and Apple Pay. iOS 11 also comes with animated animal emojis, which is a sentence that makes me sad. Among many more things I could link to, the leak also reveals how Face ID - the replacement for Touch ID - will work, and how to set it up.

The HomePod leak, the recent Bloomberg story by Mark Gurman, and now this GM leak basically leaves nothing left to the imagination - aside from the name and perhaps pricing. Update: and we have the name too: iPhone X. Apple listened to me (this is a joke).

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Comment by iwod
by iwod on Sat 9th Sep 2017 15:56 UTC
iwod
Member since:
2006-05-02

Worst leak from Apple's History ever. The iMac was from Journalist, outside Apple. The recent iPhone 4, was misplaced.

This, is a leak direct from within Apple.

The Homepod may be an honest mistake, but this? Someones needs to get fired for this. And I wish SJ is alive and I would love to see his reaction.

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RE: Comment by iwod
by shotsman on Sat 9th Sep 2017 16:49 UTC in reply to "Comment by iwod"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

the iPhone 4 was hardly recent in the world of technology but otherwise, you are correct.

I'm sure that there will come a time when one of these leaks sends the Apple Fanbois and Hacks in a direction that is 180deg from where Apple are going. I hope that a dump truck of salt is around because there are going to be a lot of pinches of salt being taken.

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RE[2]: Comment by iwod
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Mon 11th Sep 2017 16:04 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by iwod"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

You kinda already see some of that just from the nature of the leaks and the timing of them as Apple wrestles with the proposed changes. There is a lot of conflicting info on what the models will be and which features will be in each. Which is a good reason why Apple may want to keep these internal decisions internal to reduce confusion in the market place, and have people talk about the real finished purchasable product and its real purchasable features.

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RE[3]: Comment by iwod
by Kochise on Mon 11th Sep 2017 16:23 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by iwod"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

But (fake) news sites needs (new) matter to chew on. Hence useless precocious speculation.

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RE[4]: Comment by iwod
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Mon 11th Sep 2017 18:13 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by iwod"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Speculation is fine, but real leaks are a different matter. I don't follow the crazy apple sites well enough to be informed as to how often news is faked for clicks.

And really, I'd prefer to have the hyperbola taken down a notch with Apple products. But I understand why Apple isn't happy with leaks. But man, when Apple is just incrementally adding stupid features that no one really wants and everyone goes apeshit ... I really want some one to slap some sense into the crowd. The new promised changes in the i phone 8/x/pro/whateva, sounds really different and interesting. I'd like some sound judgement and reasoning of the features.

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RE[5]: Comment by iwod
by fmaxwell on Tue 12th Sep 2017 00:57 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by iwod"
fmaxwell Member since:
2005-11-13

Speculation is fine, but real leaks are a different matter.

"The new iPhone will have a 3D, front-facing camera for a holographic version of Facetime" is a leak.

"Here's the entire, yet-to-be-released, version of iOS for the new iPhone" is copyright infringement.

If Apple can't keep a lid on leakers, that's their problem. But copyright infringement is a legal matter.

Edited 2017-09-12 01:01 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by iwod
by Flatland_Spider on Tue 12th Sep 2017 14:57 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by iwod"
Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

They could be throwing this out there to see what people get excited about.

X% of people are excited about feature 1.
Y% of people are excited about feature 2.
Everyone hates feature 3, so it gets axed.

You know like an ad hoc, crowd sourced focus group. Apple isn't an community driven company, like some others, so this is the best they could do. ;)

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Comment by fmaxwell
by fmaxwell on Mon 11th Sep 2017 08:19 UTC
fmaxwell
Member since:
2005-11-13

Here we go. W're digging through the iOS 11 GM we received this evening to unpack what we can learn about the D22 'iPhone 8' and the rest of the lineup ahead of Apple's big unveiling on Tuesday.

I wonder if they'll find a copyright notice as they 'dig through' the stolen files.

Edited 2017-09-11 08:20 UTC

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RE: Comment by fmaxwell
by medior on Mon 11th Sep 2017 11:45 UTC in reply to "Comment by fmaxwell"
medior Member since:
2016-02-20

Pretty sure Apple isn't that blatant.

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RE: Comment by fmaxwell
by darknexus on Mon 11th Sep 2017 16:42 UTC in reply to "Comment by fmaxwell"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

I wonder if they'll find a copyright notice as they 'dig through' the stolen files.

I'm sure they did... and promptly ignored it.

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RE[2]: Comment by fmaxwell
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Mon 11th Sep 2017 18:15 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by fmaxwell"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Apple could enforce that if they wanted to, We'll see how it shakes out. Kinda funny when people point out copyright as a positive and expects people to take it seriously on tech sites. Its so rare, its like a unicorn tap dancing on a rainbow in central park.

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RE[3]: Comment by fmaxwell
by fmaxwell on Mon 11th Sep 2017 19:19 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by fmaxwell"
fmaxwell Member since:
2005-11-13

Apple could enforce that if they wanted to, We'll see how it shakes out. Kinda funny when people point out copyright as a positive and expects people to take it seriously on tech sites. Its so rare, its like a unicorn tap dancing on a rainbow in central park.


Until my retirement, I made my living writing software and firmware (and designing hardware), so, yes, I view copyright as a positive thing. That so many other tech site readers do not suggests to me that they are tech consumers rather than engineers.

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RE[4]: Comment by fmaxwell
by darknexus on Mon 11th Sep 2017 20:18 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by fmaxwell"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Wish I could mod you up for this. On the other hand, while I view copyright as positive for the most part (except when it does get abused), I view software patents as overwhelmingly negative. It seems to me that, unfortunately, most tech consumers confuse the two when they have nothing to do with each other.

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RE[5]: Comment by fmaxwell
by fmaxwell on Tue 12th Sep 2017 00:48 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by fmaxwell"
fmaxwell Member since:
2005-11-13

I view software patents as overwhelmingly negative. It seems to me that, unfortunately, most tech consumers confuse the two when they have nothing to do with each other.

We agree. When I'm king, I will change the entire patent system to prevent patent trolls who manufacture nothing from preying on tech companies, employing a "use-it-or-lose-it" model: "Apple is using your patented technology in millions of iPhones and you've never used it in any product you ever sold? Then your patent falls into the public domain. Pay your court costs on the way out."

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RE[4]: Comment by fmaxwell
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Mon 11th Sep 2017 21:56 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by fmaxwell"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Don't get me wrong, I'm also in favor of copyright.

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RE[5]: Comment by fmaxwell
by zima on Mon 11th Sep 2017 22:46 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by fmaxwell"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

And GPL is a copyright license... Without copyright, it wouldn't work.

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RE[6]: Comment by fmaxwell
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 12th Sep 2017 19:03 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by fmaxwell"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Exactly

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Comment by Rokas
by Rokas on Tue 12th Sep 2017 08:32 UTC
Rokas
Member since:
2017-09-12

I just don't get it, what's the fuss about those "leaks"? If you're a competitor of the company affected by the leak, then yes, you might care a lot, but for a consumer?.. Personally, I don't care if I learn about certain "new" features today via leak or few days/weeks later during official introduction. It's not like those few days/weeks are going to change anything for me.

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