Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th May 2018 23:01 UTC
Internet & Networking

Twitter has long had a strange disdain for third-party Twitter apps, but it's allowed many of them to pass under the radar for the last several years. That's starting to change this summer, when Twitter will revoke a key piece of access that developers currently have to the service, replacing it with a new access system that limits what they can do. The changes aren't going to make third-party Twitter clients useless, but they are going to make the apps somewhat worse.

The changes, which go into effect August 16th, do two main things: first, they prevent new tweets from streaming into an app in real time; and second, they prevent and delay some push notifications. Neither of these are going to break Twitter apps completely, but they could be very annoying depending on how and where you use it.

As good a moment as any to stop using Twitter altogether. Twitter is actively making Twitter worse for those that use Twitter the most and since the longest time, which seems like a terrible business decision. They want us to use their crappy non-chronological, advertisement-ridden first party clients, which in my case simply isn't going to happen. I use Twitter for fun, and these needless changes suck that fun out of it.

Meanwhile, the Nazis are still on Twitter. Just so you know where the company's priorities lie.

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There's always the fediverse
by woegjiub on Thu 17th May 2018 00:32 UTC
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2008-11-25

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse

A few months ago I switched to Mastodon and I've been really happy with it as a Twitter replacement.

Yeah, you need to seek out new people to follow, and you do need to pick a server to log into.

But the communities and the discourse over on the fediverse is much more progressive and privacy-conscious.

Any of the below projects work and they all talk to each other.
https://joinmastodon.org/
https://friendi.ca/
https://blog.soykaf.com/post/what-is-pleroma/

You can follow people from any server, but you do get a "local timeline" for others on the same server as you too.

It's worth looking into a few servers to get a feel for the communities on each, but I've been loving being surrounded by anitcapitalists and communists on my chosen instance - it means more insights and less consumerist tech/pop-culture garbage.

Edited 2018-05-17 00:34 UTC

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RE: There's always the fediverse
by thedaemon on Thu 17th May 2018 18:22 UTC in reply to "There's always the fediverse"
thedaemon Member since:
2008-04-04

I too have joined mastodon, http://mastodon.art/ is my choice. It's nice to have a local and federated timeline, plus I love that the toots (tweets) are in chronological order! I just can't stand behind Twitter anymore since it's became so hard to view the content. The "timeline" is the worst and was the last straw for me. I don't mind advertising, but I like to view the timeline in order, so I don't miss anything. The way it is now, I miss things and I see the same tweets over and over. This is not useful to me.

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I've never used Twitter
by WorknMan on Thu 17th May 2018 02:22 UTC
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2005-11-13

At least as a news source (the only reason I would ever use it), Twitter seems nothing more to me than a gimped RSS reader. Anything important that shows up on Twitter will be in my RSS feeds in 30 minutes or less, without any of the noise and bullshit.

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Comment by sj87
by sj87 on Thu 17th May 2018 06:46 UTC
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Meanwhile, the Nazis are still on Twitter. Just so you know where the company's priorities lie.

I'm sorry but the islamistic terrorists came first. They can spew their open hate in Arabic and Twitter just laughs everytime a bomb goes off.

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RE: Comment by sj87
by kwan_e on Thu 17th May 2018 07:05 UTC in reply to "Comment by sj87"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

"Meanwhile, the Nazis are still on Twitter. Just so you know where the company's priorities lie.

I'm sorry but the islamistic terrorists came first. They can spew their open hate in Arabic and Twitter just laughs everytime a bomb goes off.
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Nazis came first.

Also, what is the total murder count of Al Qaeda+ and ISIS, compared to 6 million Jews?

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RE[2]: Comment by sj87
by ssokolow on Thu 17th May 2018 20:52 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by sj87"
ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

Nazis came first.


Quite literally. The Nazis became a going concern in the lead-up to World War 2, as the newest expression of smear campaigns dating back to when, in the Roman Empire, Jews refused to give up their traditions and assimilate. (That's why you see people like Alex Jones ranting about weird ideas like Jews wanting to drink the blood of children. They're continuing a persecution of the *** religion that began before Islam even existed.)

The kinds of Islamic terrorism we're seeing are an offshoot of a fundamentalist strain of Islam called Wahabbism, which wasn't really bothering anyone else until, during the Cold War, the U.S. supported and egged on its most militant adherents as pawns against the godless communists.

Edited 2018-05-17 20:58 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by sj87
by ssokolow on Fri 18th May 2018 22:27 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by sj87"
ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

They're continuing a persecution of the *** religion that began before Islam even existed.


Waitaminute. Who censored that and why?

It was just the adjectival form of the name of the religion.

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RE[4]: Comment by sj87
by kwan_e on Sat 19th May 2018 08:04 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by sj87"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

Maybe just a poorly written regex?

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RE[2]: Comment by sj87
by zima on Fri 18th May 2018 00:37 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by sj87"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

what is the total murder count of Al Qaeda+ and ISIS, compared to 6 million Jews?

And quite a few millions of non-Jews...

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RE[3]: Comment by sj87
by kwan_e on Sat 19th May 2018 08:03 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by sj87"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

"what is the total murder count of Al Qaeda+ and ISIS, compared to 6 million Jews?

And quite a few millions of non-Jews...
"

Yes, quite. I went for the lower number to demonstrate the sheer magnitude of what Nazis are really about.

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RE[4]: Comment by sj87
by zima on Mon 21st May 2018 21:58 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by sj87"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

W8, wouldn't going for the higher number better show the magnitude?

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RE[5]: Comment by sj87
by kwan_e on Mon 21st May 2018 22:55 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by sj87"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

It's because we know many more times than the 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis that makes the magnitude easier to show. You already have to be spectacularly evil just to kill 6 million people, so using the smaller number gives a useful multiplier to say: "even if the terrorists killed 6 million people, the Nazis are still 5x worse than that".

Using a big number would actually work against that illustration because, as the terrorized have shown, humans tend to have the unfortunate habit of glossing over the big tragedies more easily.

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RE[6]: Comment by sj87
by wifi on Wed 23rd May 2018 23:42 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by sj87"
wifi Member since:
2012-07-31

Oh come on, now you kinda make this up as you go ...while probably sort of ~forgetting originally about non-Jewish victims. :/

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RE: Comment by sj87
by The1stImmortal on Mon 21st May 2018 02:47 UTC in reply to "Comment by sj87"
The1stImmortal Member since:
2005-10-20

"Meanwhile, the Nazis are still on Twitter. Just so you know where the company's priorities lie.

I'm sorry but the islamistic terrorists came first. They can spew their open hate in Arabic and Twitter just laughs everytime a bomb goes off.
"

I dont care. As long as they dont directly commit real crimes on the platform (threats, fraud, defamation, breaking court orders etc) and as long as the platform expects a safe harbour provisions and operates as an incorporated entity, it should be required to allow any opinion anyone has to be stated on said platform. Regardless of how extreme or hateful or disgusting said opinion may be.

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