Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 5th Sep 2018 22:15 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones

Earlier today, Mozilla pushed Firefox 62 for desktop and Android. With the release, Mozilla has introduced an UI refresh for the new tabs page as well as several dialogs like for adding or editing a bookmark, several performance enhancements to speed up browsing, and some security enhancements.

The first change that users will notice is the refreshed new tab page; with Firefox 62 users can now display up to four rows of top sites, Pocket stories and highlights. Currently, you get one row of top sites, and depending on your location you may not even get shown Pocket stories. Another UI changes that you’ll notice is in the menu where you can toggle tracking protection on and off easily.

On the performance side of things, Windows users will now get improved graphics rendering without accelerated hardware using Parallel-Off-Main-Thread Painting. Additionally, support for CSS Shapes allows for richer web page layouts, and CSS Variable Fonts support allows the browser to render "beautiful typography" with a single font file.

I don't feel it makes any sense to highlight every browser release, but randomly picking a release to talk about here on OSNews only makes sense - especially for a loyal mainstay like Firefox.

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bookmark descriptions
by MamiyaOtaru on Thu 6th Sep 2018 01:14 UTC
MamiyaOtaru
Member since:
2005-11-11

removed feature for this update: the description field for bookmarks. Probably most people don't use it, but if you do, you've got something to work around

Also Firefox 52 ESR is no longer supported, so XP (or Server 2003) holdouts don't have an up to date browser from Mozilla anymore. If you (or some forgotten device) are on XP still, the only option I can dig up for a maintained browser is Otter Browser ( https://otter-browser.org ) though releases this year are a bit scarce

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RE: bookmark descriptions
by cronenburger on Thu 6th Sep 2018 07:22 UTC in reply to "bookmark descriptions"
cronenburger Member since:
2018-09-06

Thanks for the Otter tip!
For 2k/XP builds of Firefox, K-Meleon and Pale.. I mean New Moon visit http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/ or the MSFN XP forum.

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RE: bookmark descriptions
by sj87 on Thu 6th Sep 2018 07:54 UTC in reply to "bookmark descriptions"
sj87 Member since:
2007-12-16

Also Firefox 52 ESR is no longer supported, so XP (or Server 2003) holdouts don't have an up to date browser from Mozilla anymore. If you (or some forgotten device) are on XP still, the only option I can dig up for a maintained browser is Otter Browser ( https://otter-browser.org ) though releases this year are a bit scarce

Please don't scam yourself. Otter Browser is built with Qt 5 that will also receive its EOL on Windows XP in just a couple of months. Already now, the last XP-supported release is from September 2017 and there might actually be no additional release before the scheduled end-of-life for Qt 5.6 LTS at the end of this year.

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RE: bookmark descriptions
by ilovebeer on Thu 6th Sep 2018 14:46 UTC in reply to "bookmark descriptions"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

Well that sucks.. I use the description field to keep notes in.

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RE: bookmark descriptions
by laffer1 on Thu 6th Sep 2018 18:15 UTC in reply to "bookmark descriptions"
laffer1 Member since:
2007-11-09

That also means rust is required now for a secure browser. This blocks several smaller projects from providing firefox.

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v Nothing new under the sun
by Kochise on Thu 6th Sep 2018 04:51 UTC
RE: Nothing new under the sun
by Gargyle on Thu 6th Sep 2018 04:59 UTC in reply to "Nothing new under the sun"
Gargyle Member since:
2015-03-27

You're clearly doing something wrong, because i have 1 giga of RAM usage and I've got like 30 tabs open. Granted, I haven't clicked all of them since opening Firefox, but most have been loaded.

Do you perhaps don't use a blocker? Ad and tracking software stacks really are horrendous in terms of bloatedness.

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RE: Nothing new under the sun
by malxau on Thu 6th Sep 2018 07:18 UTC in reply to "Nothing new under the sun"
malxau Member since:
2005-12-04

Firefox is still a resource hog. Currently browsing 5 tabs, opening process explorer, each process are in the 350-740 MB range, with the main at 810 MB. 3GB for 5 opened tabs, seriously ? I remember a time when we could browse the Internet with a computer with 256 MB, have a load of tabs opened without pushing the computer to its limits.


There's a few things here. First, note the web is not static and pages today are typically far more complex than 15 years ago, even if that complexity is not visually apparent. Second, be careful reading memory usage because that memory may not entirely consist of non-shared private pages, so the sum may be misleading. And third, I never really remember a "load of tabs" not being impactful; while browsing the web on 256Mb of RAM was certainly a real thing, this was happening when tabbed browsing was in its infancy. The expectations of the web have risen along with the hardware's ability to provide it.

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RE[2]: Nothing new under the sun
by sj87 on Thu 6th Sep 2018 19:08 UTC in reply to "RE: Nothing new under the sun"
sj87 Member since:
2007-12-16

And third, I never really remember a "load of tabs" not being impactful; while browsing the web on 256Mb of RAM was certainly a real thing, this was happening when tabbed browsing was in its infancy. The expectations of the web have risen along with the hardware's ability to provide it.

It's just retarded to complain about memory usage anyway. Increased load on memory is a natural consequence of running separate components in separate processes to make the browser FASTER and MORE SECURE. Nobody wanted to use the old Firefox that was running everything in the same process/thread, because it was unbearably slow and sometimes even unstable.

What are you trying to achieve when you cry for going back to the slow and unusable Firefox? Just to buy some more RAM, unless you made the mistake of buying some crappy laptop with maybe 4 GBs of RAM soldered on the mobo...

Edited 2018-09-06 19:08 UTC

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RE[2]: Nothing new under the sun
by zima on Sat 8th Sep 2018 01:27 UTC in reply to "RE: Nothing new under the sun"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I never really remember a "load of tabs" not being impactful; while browsing the web on 256Mb of RAM was certainly a real thing, this was happening when tabbed browsing was in its infancy.

Classic Opera was light enough on resources to be nice with dozens of tabs opened since it introduced that feature...

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RE: Nothing new under the sun
by crystall on Thu 6th Sep 2018 07:48 UTC in reply to "Nothing new under the sun"
crystall Member since:
2007-02-06

There must be something wrong with your setup: I've got 14 tabs open at the moment and mine's taking 1.8GB (64-bit build on 64-bit Windows).

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Windows/Mac/Android
by Caraibes on Thu 6th Sep 2018 12:59 UTC
Caraibes
Member since:
2007-08-06

I use FF on Windows/Mac/Android, sometimes I switch to Chrome for a couple of months, then I go back to FF. Both are good. On Windows, FF is probably much better than on Mac. Anyway, it's probably an emotional choice, FF being open source.

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