Linked by David Adams on Wed 13th Aug 2003 21:59 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Today is the second anniversary of OSNews' renaissance. Though OSNews started in Autumn of 1997, there was a long period in which it was in deep-freeze, with only occasional updates. August 2001 bought daily updates, a new back-end, and a lot of new readers, thanks to our new Editor-in-Chief (Eugenia). Since that time we've had:
  • 4,247 news postings
  • 133,118 comments
  • 244 Feature Articles
  • 82 Editorials
  • 94 Interviews
  • 1001 Flamewars
Thanks for reading, and keep coming back!
Order by: Score:
:)
by Chemtux on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:24 UTC

Congratulations to all of you...and keep up the good work

yeah, this is a great website!
by alex on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:26 UTC

this is probably my favorite website, especially because it's got sucha mix of articles, linux, windows, apple, hardware, everything is here ;0

good job!

Congratulations OSNews!
by Espen Ottersen on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:27 UTC

Thanks for for the greatest OS news site, and my startpage for over a year now! ;)

Thanks for all the 1001 flamewars... Trolls... We wouldn't have made it without you! ;)

Looking forward to the continue! Keep up the good work!

Congrats
by Anonymous on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:28 UTC

Well done! OSNews probably has one of the highest reader retention rates I've ever seen!

1001 Flamewars, eh? ;)

Let's Not Forget...
by HadToSayIt on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:29 UTC


EUGENIA ROCKS!

Congrats and a question...
by bsdrocks on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:32 UTC

May I ask how many paid memebers in here?

Keep up the good work!
by Thom on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:34 UTC

Congrats to all of you-- and to us of course (the readers also matter!)

1001 flame wars, ey? Nice to know I helped initiate one or two! ;) )

Comments
by nns6561 on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:38 UTC

133,118 comments

Anybody know how many of those were posted by Eugenia?

Flamewar Qualifications?
by tweak on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:40 UTC

The whole time I have been reading this site and its forums (admittedly only for around seven or eight months) I have seen what I considered to be MANY MANY flamewars, usually regarding SCO and Mac articles (and everyone probably knows the <sarcasm>awesome</sarcasm> trolls that frequent those stories).

But I am curious, what does it take to be officially considered a flamewar?

A certain number of moderated down comments?
A certain number of posts?
A certain number of posts going back and forth between specific individuals?

With all that being said, I still enjoy reading these forums and the site a lot and think OSNews is an entertaining website and think Eugenia does a good job (even though I felt she was a little unprofessional on the thread about paying for an advert-less website when someone dissed her HTML coding, hopefully this comment won't start another flamewar ;) ).

Anyway, just curious about the specific qualifications for a flamewar? ;) (whew that was long)

Cheers
by bbyybb on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:42 UTC

Congratulations on continuing to provide a magnifficent service, keeping the tech industry informed of software developments daily for the past two years.


Raises a Glass.


Cheers,
bbyybb.

Congrats!
by Ray on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:43 UTC

Kudos to you all for the fine work.

Flamewars, members
by David Adams on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:45 UTC

The flamewars number was just a guess :-) And there are less than 100 members so far, BTW. http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3878">Sign .

Congratulations
by Egil.B on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:50 UTC

Congratulations

RE: Comments
by Nacs on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:52 UTC

133,118 comments

Anybody know how many of those were posted by Eugenia?



1001 Flamewars

Anybody know how many of those were started by Eugenia? ;-)

Yay!
by Jeffrey Boulier on Wed 13th Aug 2003 22:56 UTC

Congradulations, Eugenia, David, and all the editors and special contributors out there on having put together such a marvellous site!

Yours truly,
Jeffrey Boulier

Congrats
by Per on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:03 UTC

Love you for making souch a good site.. !!

Discussions
by Zenja on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:03 UTC

What would be great is threaded comments, so that replies are attached to the comment they're replying to. Just a thought...

Well done everyone.

RE: Zenja
by Thom on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:06 UTC

"What would be great is threaded comments, so that replies are attached to the comment they're replying to. Just a thought..."

I think that would become a problem when replying to different posts though.

Maybe a "switch to" button will do the trick?

Thanks Eugenia!
by TrueDis on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:07 UTC

OSNews has, and especially now does stand for unbiased, quality operating system (and other important) news.

anniversary
by anon on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:14 UTC

1001? Go to hell, asshole.

1002. ;)

Seriously, congrats to everyone! Especially poor Eugenia, and anyone doing thankless background work we don't know about. This site certainly has a personality.

RE: Flamewars, members
by tweak on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:17 UTC

"The flamewars number was just a guess :-)"

Come on, I was hoping for a more imaginative answer than that ;)

and ...
by Mad Ant on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:20 UTC

... and a partridge in a pear tree !!!

Where is the DAMN CHOCOLATE CAKE !!!!!!!!!!!!
by e g on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:23 UTC

I want cake damnit ! now !

Where are the adult drinks too ???????! !!!

good good.
by CroanoN on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:26 UTC

hopefully will be better. happy anniversary. --: )

Congratulations
by John Blink on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:26 UTC

and thanks for keeping me up to date with things I love.

1001 Flamewars?

How about 1002 off-topic posts ;)

eg. Title="SCO Vs IBM"
anonymous poster="Hello I am having a problem installing..."

:B Anyway thanks for the news, interviews (my favourite), etc.

and yes EUGENIA ROCKS as someone else put it.

Congrats :)
by Anonymous on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:29 UTC

Congrats on making such a top notch site, and community. I really appreciate all the work you guys have done.

Interviews
by John Blink on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:29 UTC

It would actually be funny reading the comments page, if you ever get the opportunity to interview Bill Gates. The poor guy.

Great site
by Lackey on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:29 UTC

This is my favorite Windows-centric news site on the entire net! If only there were less Linux and Mac zealots here. Windows all the way baby (and btw last time I had a crash was Windows 95).

Congratulations!
by Michael Vinicius de Oliveira on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:30 UTC

This is my best source of informations! Congratulations!

Michael Vinicius de Oliveira
~ BlueEyedOS.com Webmaster ~

Yay for Eugenia and all the others!
by Someone on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:33 UTC

For she's a jolly good lady!
For she's a jolly good lady!
For she's a jolly good la-a-a-dyyyyy!

who's-also-highly-opinionated-and-a-real-firecracker-when-she-gets-ang ry-and-not-ENTIRELY-unbiased-but-nobody-truly-is that nobody can deny!!

--JM

congratulations
by dani on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:43 UTC

congratulations from buenos aires!!!!!!!1
this site is in the top 10 of the net!

:-)
by CooCooChaChoo on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:48 UTC

Congrats of course. Keep up the good work Eugenia. Many people do appreciate this site as one of the most objective OS news sites around, despite what you may read occasionally in the forums.

bowowowoowow
by dadogg on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:54 UTC

This is my start page!

Congratulations!
by adrian on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:56 UTC

I too like this website, but ther eis one thing constantly annoying me, the crappy forums! Any, cahnce they will be upgraded soon?

compare newMobileComputing's (OSNEWS, sister site) forums: http://www.nmcx.com/forum/

to our forums http://osnews.com/phorum/

Phorum? You can tell its bad just by the cheesy name!

Happy birthday
by Carl on Wed 13th Aug 2003 23:57 UTC

Thank you guys and especially Eugenia for bringing us the best news of OS. This site is my favorite website!
Hope the best for you guys.

Happy anniversary!
by juraj on Thu 14th Aug 2003 00:09 UTC

Congratulation to you all!

Congrats
by Tyr on Thu 14th Aug 2003 00:30 UTC

Congratulations, and many more. A big thank you to all of you who make this site the great resource it is.

Seems like it was last week.
by chicobaud on Thu 14th Aug 2003 00:30 UTC

Congratulations.

hooah!
by jl on Thu 14th Aug 2003 00:44 UTC

Great work, keep it up!

More!
by kulapu on Thu 14th Aug 2003 00:53 UTC

Happy Anniversary OSNews!! It's really great to see a site like this age gracefully. One of the first site I visit everytime I surf the web. Keep up the good works and may you have more successful years ahead of you!!

Three cheers and a drunk.
by BR on Thu 14th Aug 2003 00:53 UTC

Ah well, congratulations, and were are the door prizes?

Yeah!
by akumax on Thu 14th Aug 2003 00:59 UTC

To be honest i have no clue how i came to this site but im glad that i did because it's one of the sites i visit everyday. Sometimes this site has articles up before slashdot does.

I love how i can read up on whats happening on the major os's all on this one page. I can read up on a microsoft security flaw then go to a "Sco vs IBM" article and read up on how good apple is doing. This site is really unique. Thanks for everything!

Much thanks
by ShawnX on Thu 14th Aug 2003 01:00 UTC

Keep up the great work!

Definately a daily
by Dave Poirier on Thu 14th Aug 2003 01:05 UTC

OSNews is one of a few select website I visit at least once daily coming in the office and once again before I leave at night. My sincere appreciation to the entire staff and family of the staff, which I'm sure have to suffer once in a while too ;)

Long life to osnews! Hoping to see user moderated comments soon (10 diff IP rating down the comment would hide it).

Congrats...
by Kreg Steppe on Thu 14th Aug 2003 01:12 UTC

...and thanks for all the fish.

Congratulations!
by top speed on Thu 14th Aug 2003 01:27 UTC

Great Site! Incredible diversity in your news links, and in the posters' opinions!

Forums
by Mike on Thu 14th Aug 2003 01:42 UTC

There is nothing wrong w/ the forums here. I actually prefer the one here to the cookie-cutter one you linked to. There is just something about those style boards that I don't like. I know its made by a third party, but for goodness sakes, at least change the graphics and colors so it doesn't look like every other board on the web.

The only beef I have w/ the forum here is that there is no nesting of comments, but its not really big enough to justify that.

Re: Definately a daily
by Richard Fillion on Thu 14th Aug 2003 01:55 UTC

Come on dave, we all know you refresh osnews every hour on the hour. ;)

OSNews ROCKS! I have a tab open for it almost 100% of the time. The variety in articles is awesome, and they keep getting better.

Only suggestion: less "Jimmy's review of RedHat X.Y" articles.

Eugenia
by Roberto J. Dohnert on Thu 14th Aug 2003 02:18 UTC

Eugenia is one of the main resons I come to OSNews, without Eugenia OSNews would not be OSNews.

Eh
by Jack on Thu 14th Aug 2003 02:18 UTC

I'm a paid subscriber here, and I enjoyed my time until one of my posts was deleted. No, not moderated down, but outright deleted. Since then, I haven't been coming as often, and I doubt I'll renew my subscription.

Regardless, I know others enjoy the site, so good show.

Good job all
by Kai on Thu 14th Aug 2003 02:21 UTC

Great site, always a good job with interesting and varied topics.

Re: Eh
by Roberto J. Dohnert on Thu 14th Aug 2003 02:22 UTC

<<< I'm a paid subscriber here, and I enjoyed my time until one of my posts was deleted. No, not moderated down, but outright deleted. Since then, I haven't been coming as often, and I doubt I'll renew my subscription.

Regardless, I know others enjoy the site, so good show. >>>

If it got deleted you were probably trying to start some crap, just because you are a paid subscriber doesnt mean you can come to OSNews and post anything socially unacceptable, it must have been really bad to be deleted. I have been modded down several times but never deleted.

How to start a flame war
by hylas on Thu 14th Aug 2003 02:34 UTC

Post a new comment.

Thanks, GREAT SITE.

... and I meant that as a troll OK?





(That was also meant as a joke)

Keep it rollin'

Great site
by roybatty on Thu 14th Aug 2003 03:12 UTC

Great site. Eugenia is a very balanced editor and a huge asset to this site. Keep up the good work. This is the first page I come to now.


Congratulations for your good job keeping us always inside
of the news of computer world.
Keep up this good work.




Free software RULES

Uh?
by Ronald on Thu 14th Aug 2003 03:25 UTC

­thanks to our new Editor-in-Chief (Eugenia)

You're back full time?

w00t!
by Ed on Thu 14th Aug 2003 03:27 UTC

k0ngr@ul4t10n5 05 n3w5!

Deleted post
by David Adams on Thu 14th Aug 2003 03:52 UTC

There have been some posts that were deleted that should not have been, and moderators have been chastized. But we will delete posts that are intentionally offensive (contain racial slurs, off-topic profanity, etc). Occasionally an editor has become so fed up with a particular topic that's generating a lot of trolling/flaming we've just deleted all the comments. If you ever feel that you have been dealt with unfairly on the forums, please contact me.

Congratz
by mlk on Thu 14th Aug 2003 04:51 UTC

.

happy anniversary
by linuxgrilla on Thu 14th Aug 2003 04:51 UTC

thanks for a website that i read every day. it is great to see so many differing viewpoints. eugenia you do a fantastic job!

gary in texas

Congratulations
by Ivo Limmen on Thu 14th Aug 2003 06:03 UTC

Congratulations, I like this website. I hope to enjoy it very many years to come.

Congrats...
by Dylan Harris on Thu 14th Aug 2003 06:25 UTC

This is one of three sites I check daily (slashdot and the bbc). Keep up the good work.

25% of flame :-)
by Timothy on Thu 14th Aug 2003 06:36 UTC

# 4,247 news postings
# 1001 Flamewars

25% are flamewars! :-) Operating Systems are becoming like idols! ;-) When they are to be a handful set of good tools.

congrats OSNEWS and keep it up
by anyweb on Thu 14th Aug 2003 07:03 UTC

well done to Eugenia and David

keep up the good work,

live long and prosper, go out and take a break and party

great site, love it love it love it !

cheers

anyweb

Congratulation
by jmx on Thu 14th Aug 2003 07:04 UTC

Congratulations, u have done a great job. Keep going!

Flamewar 1002..
by Huffle Puff on Thu 14th Aug 2003 07:39 UTC

Lets start it right here :-))

Well Done!
by Matthew Baulch on Thu 14th Aug 2003 07:40 UTC

I (and no doubt SO many others) have spent thousands of hours on the forums here and anxiously pressing the refresh button waiting for more news. Maybe by the 3rd anniversary we will have overtaken slashdot! Cheers.

RE: Well Done!
by Matthew Baulch on Thu 14th Aug 2003 07:43 UTC

Soz, I meant posts/page_views, not quality. OSNews is about as high quality as you can get ;)

Happy Anniversary
by Peter Anderson on Thu 14th Aug 2003 08:12 UTC

Very warm congratulations and thanks for a great resource. OSNews is regular daily viewing and I would be lost without it. I hope you can keep up the good work.

Regards,
Peter

Thanx and keep them coming
by CyberXP on Thu 14th Aug 2003 08:24 UTC

thanx OSNews team for making me want to watch your site daily. It's like a drug!

Congratulations
by Paulo Gomes on Thu 14th Aug 2003 08:54 UTC

keep the good work ;)

Congrats!!!
by jepsr on Thu 14th Aug 2003 08:57 UTC

I have enjoyed the site for a year or two. Very informative and lively banter. I look forward to many more visits and the continued great OS coverage.

Great Work
by b.krishnan on Thu 14th Aug 2003 09:10 UTC

been following osnews for ages. absolutely great content, great moderation and kudos to everyone involved . Happy Birthday (Y)

Hu~~~ Ah~~~
by Ji Hun, SEO on Thu 14th Aug 2003 09:20 UTC

Congratulation!!! ^^

10000 Congratulations
by simon engels on Thu 14th Aug 2003 09:26 UTC

i love it and read it every day! and when iam traveling i read it on my palmtop
thank u Eugenia, David, and all the editors 4 this fantastic site!

*s

Great, but...
by anon on Thu 14th Aug 2003 11:07 UTC

Can you just change the name of the site to GUI review, since no one here actually talks about the real merits of an os' internals but only how pretty the screenshots look?

Re: Flamewar 1002..
by jmf on Thu 14th Aug 2003 11:20 UTC

Lets start it right here :-))
Ok, I'm on the starting blocks.
Which subject do you prefer ?
* Max OS X / Linux / Windows XP / BeOS
* GPL / BSD / Microsoft shared source
* vi / Emacs
* RMS / ESR / LBT / SteveJ / BillG
* GNOME / KDE
* Mandrake / RedHat / Debian / Gentoo / SuSE / FreeBSD
* x86 / PPC / Alpha / Sparc
* C / C++ / Java
* Perl / Python / Ruby / Php
* Bash / sh / ksh / csh / tcsh
* IBM / HP-Compaq / Sun / SGI
* SCO
* Atari / Amiga


RE: Re: Flamewar 1002.. By JMF
by Thom on Thu 14th Aug 2003 12:08 UTC

* doesn't matter to me
* doesn't matter to me
* doesn't matter to me
* doesn't matter to me
* Well, KDE...
* Well, Mandrake...
* x86, I don't have a PPC based machine... (yet!)
* doesn't matter to me
* doesn't matter to me
* doesn't matter to me
* doesn't matter to me
* What?
* doesn't matter to me

;)

Thanks Eugenia and all crew
by om on Thu 14th Aug 2003 12:38 UTC

For making OS News the best IT news site.


And please, pleeeeease, Eugenia, dont go on vacations ever again...

:-)

Congratulations OSNews

Great Site.
by bogey on Thu 14th Aug 2003 13:12 UTC

And I've been happy with the no ads version. Love the site, I visit every day.

Thanks for the work, and enjoy the Birthday...

-bogey

...
by None on Thu 14th Aug 2003 13:19 UTC

<i# 1001 Flamewars[/i]

you flatter yourselves.. the so-called flamewars are often due to eugenia's poor judgement when reporting shitty news bits.

Congrats
by Mr. Banned on Thu 14th Aug 2003 13:29 UTC

I think that the fact you have 81 posts in this thread without any moderated ones says something about the overall opinion of this site.

Despite disgreements and differing opinions, OSnews and it's readers are a great community. Although I'm sure disagreements & debates will continue, the fact that OSNews is still here reporting on the subjects we love and readers are still returning again and again, pretty much sums this site up as a winner.

Congratulations on a nice site!

Best Site Ever!
by BlightOS Admin on Thu 14th Aug 2003 13:50 UTC

OSNews RuLeZ ;) This site is good because its tailored for everyone, with Linux, Windows, Mac, General, Browsers, they have a topic for Everything !

GO OS NEWS GO OS NEWS GO OS NEWS

Eugenia Rocks?
by Dave on Thu 14th Aug 2003 13:51 UTC

Why? Does she have one leg shorter than the other?

Congrats!!
by David Ferguson on Thu 14th Aug 2003 14:34 UTC

OSnews is one of my must visit daily sites!!

Here's another...
by Xiol on Thu 14th Aug 2003 14:42 UTC

1001 flamewars eh?

Make that 1002...

Gnome is teh sux0r! *BSD is dying!

;o)

Happy Anniversary!
by Justin on Thu 14th Aug 2003 14:50 UTC

Wow, whoda thunk?

Oh, and only 1001 flamewars?

Congrats!
by Great Cthulhu on Thu 14th Aug 2003 14:52 UTC

Now, can we expect a threaded mode any time in the future? Pleease? :-)

I'm still waiting for decent news from this site!
by delos on Thu 14th Aug 2003 15:25 UTC

When we gonna get some decent news eh?
Never I reacon...

Happy Birthday!
by Nicholas Blachford on Thu 14th Aug 2003 15:52 UTC

This is a gret site with a lot of interesting information on different computer related subjects.

Most of this can be directly attributed to Eugenia's (unpaid) hard work.


Thanks :-)

...also for posting my articles ;-)

Happy Birthday
by brando on Thu 14th Aug 2003 16:37 UTC

Happy Birthday OSnews. Hope you are around for many years to come to bring us the information we love to read. Its my home page and I wake up everyday to start my browser to see what is new. I would say the content is good, not to one sided and gives the articles that are important. If I want to hear about SCO I would go to Linux.org to get that info because they have a new one almost every day on them.

I would like to hear about the 2.6 kernal though, I don't know how that is going.

Congrats
by knups on Thu 14th Aug 2003 16:39 UTC

Congratulations, happy birthday, and a long life to you. I've been following the OSnews since, I believe, late '00. But I can't remember. This is one of the greatest sites on the Internet! Keep up the good work!

Current Champ
by wakeupneo on Thu 14th Aug 2003 16:40 UTC

...and has been for over a year as my home page.

Great site. Cheers.

New back-end
by Phil on Thu 14th Aug 2003 16:43 UTC

Eugenia, are _you_ the new backend? :->

1001
by 0x DE AD BE EF on Thu 14th Aug 2003 18:19 UTC

Congrats!

Is each occurence of Mike Bouma "moderating down" a comment that doesn't express agreement with what he/Amiga Inc. says included in the 1001 flamewars? The ones that don't violate OSNews forum terms and that he incorrectly calls "trolls".

That'd leave, oh, about 1 *real* flamewar. ;-)

Troll free
by patrick g on Thu 14th Aug 2003 18:41 UTC

No moderation ala /. - to hide troll comments - and still there aren't many troll comments.
Congrats

Congratulations
by Mr Boingy Pants on Thu 14th Aug 2003 20:08 UTC

As a long time lurker y morning coffee wouldn't be the same without the osnews (especially the flamewars)

keep up the good work

BTW macs cost more than PCs ...... ;-p

Congratulation...
by guest on Thu 14th Aug 2003 22:55 UTC

Selamat ulang tahun..and Windows Rule !!!

well
by David Levi on Fri 15th Aug 2003 02:51 UTC

this site sucks...it's one sided and opinionated as hell and i will never read it's content again!

see ya tomorrow...i love osnews!!!!

Maybe this next year will bring less blind obedience to Microsoft
by Dr. Propaganda on Fri 15th Aug 2003 03:53 UTC

After having too many realistic comments about Microsoft moderated down, I am hopeful this next year will bring more fairness and realism to OSNews.

Witness the recent editorial on the Inqwell regarding Microsoft announcements vs. objective progress --

http://theinquirer.net/?article=11042

The world knows what OSNews is afraid to print.

For the 2003-2004 Flamewar Season, let us hope that Team Freedom does better on OSNews than it did last season.

-- Dr. P.

eugenia
by patrick_darcy on Fri 15th Aug 2003 22:01 UTC

eugenia is a pill isnt she ;)


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