Linked by Olin Wread on Thu 21st Aug 2003 06:44 UTC
Linux Throngs of people flooded into the Moscone center in San Francisco to get a glimpse at what is new in the Linux world. Once again, the Linuxworld Expo came to the West Coast making a stop at the Moscone center in San Francisco August 5-7. The show floor was filled with a mix of software and hardware vendors. Somehow, I was not expecting to find so many hardware vendors at what is otherwise a show about simply an operating system. Editor's Note: Mr. Wread sumbitted this report the day after the expo, and it has been stuck in mailing list server purgatory.
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by mudrii on Thu 21st Aug 2003 07:04 UTC

It is a nice show and not only for linux prof.

RE: MSFT SFU/Interix
by Gil Bates on Thu 21st Aug 2003 07:15 UTC

"...Microsoft had a couple of these large posters advertising Windows Services for UNIX. Somehow I don't think many of the attendees of LinuxWorld will be looking at this real seriously."

Well in that case, you would be quite wrong, actually...

One of just 10 winners, Windows Services for UNIX 3.0 took the Open Source Product Excellence Award for Best System Integration Software at the LinuxWorld Conference & Expo [January 24, 2003].

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/productinfo/news/awards/linuxw...

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by rich on Thu 21st Aug 2003 07:53 UTC

So.. where are those Looking Glass screenshots? ;)

RE: MSFT SFU/Interix
by Charlie on Thu 21st Aug 2003 08:10 UTC

One of just 10 winners, Windows Services for UNIX 3.0 took the Open Source Product Excellence Award for Best System Integration Software at the LinuxWorld Conference & Expo [January 24, 2003].

What's the betting that they bought that, just like they buy everything else?

Did anybody spot the God awful Dell comment in that article:

" I inquired as to whether there would be a desktop release of Dells running Linux any time soon... Their second response was that Microsoft was putting sufficient licensing pressure on Dell to make it less economical to sell Linux boxes than to just bundle Windows."

Looks like those monopoly lawsuits in the US really got paid off... I mean, really paid off. Damn those Freundian slips.

RE: Dell and Linux
by Gil Bates on Thu 21st Aug 2003 08:20 UTC

If MSFT is actually strong-arming Dell, then why is Dell selling plenty of Linux on their servers? (about 20% of their server boxes ship with Linux on them). Dell could easily put Linux on their desktop boxes also if they thought they would sell any. IIRC, they stopped doing this a while back precisely because they weren't selling, according to Michael Dell (maybe GNOME/KDE have improved enough over the past 1-2 years to deserve another shot, I don't know).

Not that MSFT needs any help from me to defend them or anything, but if you're going to bash them for something, you've got to do better than that around here.

RE: Dell and Linux
by Charlie on Thu 21st Aug 2003 08:36 UTC

Well the desktop market is a bit different to the server market.

The majority of desktops probably run what is installed on them at sale time. Therefore, selling Linux on desktops would impact on Microsoft.

Servers are bought to fill specialist needs. Since server licenses from Microsoft are extortionate, they cannot realistically make Dell sell all servers with MS Windows 20XX Server installed on them, as people who wanted non-MSified servers simply wouldn't go to Dell.

The cost of providing a Windows license on a desktop PC is negligible, though, so they can force Dell to sell only Microsoft-setup Dell desktop PCs as the few people who do want to install something else won't mind the few pounds hit.

Sun's Xserver
by dubhthach on Thu 21st Aug 2003 09:11 UTC

going by that shot from Sun10 it would seem like they havn't got render fully ported into their Xserver let, seen that the text is not antialiased, then again it's a screenshot on a beta release, and it still looks alot better then CDE

wrong thread
by dubhthach on Thu 21st Aug 2003 09:31 UTC

doh! this is the problem about using mozilla-firebird and tabs ;-)

v Moscone Center
by element on Thu 21st Aug 2003 10:12 UTC
v Moscone Center
by peter on Thu 21st Aug 2003 10:52 UTC
v The danger of the missing article, "it"...
by Anonymous on Thu 21st Aug 2003 13:01 UTC
drat, ignorance
by dougsk on Thu 21st Aug 2003 15:22 UTC

I was in SF during the dates of the show, too bad I missed it. Thanks for the report

Great report
by Anonymous on Thu 21st Aug 2003 16:42 UTC

Nicely written and with great photos. Couple of inescapable emotional Microsoft vs Linux comments in the article didn't much spoil it, but it would be better without them.