Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 24th Jan 2004 11:16 UTC
KDE The KDE on Cygwin project announced its KDE 3.1.4 release for Cygwin/XFree. New are native sound support, windows executables are usable in Konqueror, prelimary printing support using Ghostscript and much more, the Dot reports.
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Looks alright..
by Jens on Sat 24th Jan 2004 11:48 UTC

Last time I tried this, performance was not very good.
Perhaps this time...

I'll try it out!

KDE is impressive.
by oGALAXYo on Sat 24th Jan 2004 11:54 UTC

I am playing with KDE from CVS and it's faster in execution and startup than GNOME CVS. Not to mention more stable as well.

Modified installer
by nitrile on Sat 24th Jan 2004 12:48 UTC

If you use cygwin, the new net installer listed on the install instructions page of the kde-cygwin site is worth the visit, whether you're interested in KDE or not.

Kewl
by Idoxash on Sat 24th Jan 2004 14:18 UTC

If I had broadband I would try this on my Windows XP computer. Looks like something kewl to use but then again sticking to a real install of LINUX and KDE would just be better.

--Idoxash

KDE on WSU3.5?
by Vazz on Sat 24th Jan 2004 15:19 UTC

This is nice. By the way is KDE on Windows Services for Unix 3.5 also possible?

Interesting ...
by WorknMan on Sat 24th Jan 2004 15:20 UTC

What kind of Linux/KDE apps would be interesting to someone who is currently running Windows XP?
Currently, I've got perl and grep running on my XP box, along with Firebird/Thunderbird, but those are all native apps.

Re: Interesting ...
by M on Sat 24th Jan 2004 15:36 UTC

KDE tools are probably not interesting, but linux/unix tools are very usefull.

i.e.:
- pipe |
- bzip2 and other packing tools
- easier perl and shell (sh,bash...) programming
- testing of unix/linux applications

etc.

M.

Re: KDE on WSU3.5
by Chris on Sat 24th Jan 2004 15:38 UTC

As far as I know its not. WSU doesn't come with an X service (outside of a remote protocol like Exceed)

Re: WorknMan
by tuttle on Sat 24th Jan 2004 16:41 UTC

>What kind of Linux/KDE apps would be interesting to someone >who is currently running Windows XP?

First of all, konqueror. It is a better file manager than anything that is available for windows (Network Transparency, Tabs etc.)

KMail would also be nice. I really like it, but I use mozilla mail since I have to use windows occasionally and I want the same mail client wherever I am.

Quanta is a good HTML/XML/DTD editor. It is similar to homesite, but has very good support for php development and also a new WYSIWYG mode similar (but better) to Dreamweaver.

Kate is quite nice too, and so is scribus.

The kpanel is also much more powerful than the windows panel (whatever it is called), so it would be nice to use KDE as a Windows Explorer Shell Replacement. But I think the cygwin version is way too slow for this.

Alternitaves to Cygwin?
by 2k3 on Sat 24th Jan 2004 17:08 UTC

I can't seem to force myself to use Cygwin from windows. Instead I have installed some win32 ports of many UNIX tools to be run from cmd.exe. What are some other ways I could extend the command line functions of my windows system?

BTW. findstr = grep

useless
by Anonymous on Sat 24th Jan 2004 17:22 UTC

Kde 3.2 is almost out, and is far better (faster, less buggy, improved widgets and apps) than kde 3.1, so this release on windows is alredy obsolete. What's the point in porting buggy software to Windows ?

v useless?
by nitrile on Sat 24th Jan 2004 17:55 UTC
RE: Interesting...
by Bruno the Arrogant on Sat 24th Jan 2004 18:35 UTC

I'm using it from work now - it's nice but a bit slow!

What kind of Linux/KDE apps would be interesting to someone who is currently running Windows XP?

In my case, I don't need the apps so much - I'm a unix admin and I use cygwin as an X-server. I do like the KDE interface - it's nice to now have cut and paste work. It was kind of painful not having that functionality with cygwin.The rest of the apps I don't really need, besides Konsole. In fact I'm finding them painfully slow.

I'm using Konqueror to post this, though - let's see how it works!

wtf
by stu on Sat 24th Jan 2004 18:39 UTC

guys, kde is bloated and unuseable


get a clue

RE: Interesting ...
by thesimplefix on Sat 24th Jan 2004 18:44 UTC

>What kind of Linux/KDE apps would be interesting to someone >who is currently running Windows XP?

If you are looking for OpenSource Appz that can be run on XP:

The Gimp (Graphic Editor):
http://www.gimp.org/
Gaim (Text Messaging):
http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
Xchat (IRC Client):
http://www.xchat.org/
OpenOffice.org (similar to M$ Office):
www.openoffice.org
Frozen Bubble:
www.frozen-bubble.org

If using Linux you can use all of the above and:
-XMMS (Similar to WinAmp):
www.xmms.org
-Evolution (similar to Outlook even in interface):
http://www.ximian.com/products/evolution/
Or if you don't like the Outlook Interface:
-Kmail
-gqview (similar to Acdsee) for image viewing
-Knotes: desktop sticky notes (this is my desktop tool discovery for 2003-I can't live without them)
-gFtp (similar to WS-FTP)
-Kate (adv. text editor)
-K3B : for burning CDs/DVDs
GnomeMeeting: similar to MS Netmeeting (still a bit buggy)
mPlayer: for playing video files:
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design6/dload.html
Mr.Project (similar to MS Project, but only 60% of functionality)
Konqueror (has great filemanager, and good web browser, but *personally I prefer Mozilla or Firebird for a browser.
kDict: no need to go to www.dictionary.com anymore

Re: Re: WorknMan
by Kevin on Sat 24th Jan 2004 18:46 UTC

KMail would also be nice. I really like it, but I use mozilla mail since I have to use windows occasionally and I want the same mail client wherever I am.

Someone on the kde-pim mailinglist said he would try to porting Kontact to Windows.

Re: WorknMan
by Sl on Sat 24th Jan 2004 18:46 UTC

Explorer is a great file manager - fast, stable, flexible.
Konqueror would be better, but it shows sometimes strange behaviour, for example in multi-column-view.
KMail is just an outlook express clone.
Kate would be nice.
But KDE on cygwin is simply to slow.

RE: wtf
by Jerz Jerzy on Sat 24th Jan 2004 19:06 UTC

OMG!
Now that you mentioned it, I realised that you are right! I've been using KDE for quite a long time, but never been aware of its unuseability! Now I am! Thank you very much!

RE @thesimplefix
by zima on Sat 24th Jan 2004 19:42 UTC

IMHO there's no point in running five apps from first group - they're available natively for windows

Re: Konqueror/Explorer
by WorknMan on Sat 24th Jan 2004 20:14 UTC

First of all, konqueror. It is a better file manager than anything that is available for windows (Network Transparency, Tabs etc.)


Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh ....

http://www.gpsoft.com.au

File managament trolls
by mociej on Sat 24th Jan 2004 20:47 UTC

Yeah let's fight over a file manager. Do you fight over the types of spoons you use too?

Re: Konqueror/Explorer
by Sheld on Sat 24th Jan 2004 21:10 UTC

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh ....
http://www.gpsoft.com.au


Almost all the functionality of Konqueror for only $35, what a bargain!

RE: File managament trolls
by Torrey on Sat 24th Jan 2004 21:26 UTC

I'm sure they do ;)

Re: File Management trolls
by Bucky on Sat 24th Jan 2004 21:36 UTC

Sporks. Anyone who uses anything else is a dog.

RE: Re: File Management trolls
by Anonymous on Sat 24th Jan 2004 23:13 UTC

Sporks, eh?
Sounds like something a Linux user would suggest. Instead of doing one thing well, it does two things poorly.

Re: wtf
by A nun, he moos on Sun 25th Jan 2004 06:55 UTC

guys, kde is bloated and unuseable

get a clue


You kind of have to wonder why such a useless, inflammatory, barely on-topic post wasn't moderated down.

RE: Re: wtf
by Anonymous on Sun 25th Jan 2004 16:41 UTC

Sometimes the facts hurt, Mr Anun and moose. Linux is slow, applications take longer to launch, and no one wants that software brought to Windows.

Oh btw, speaking of open source software. I thought, what the hey, I'll install Gaim and give it a try. Installed gaim, fired up Ethereal to monitor the packets, and What do you know.. "Invalid DLL entry point". Thank you gaim, for overwriting the version of WinGTK I was already using. And thank you Linux, for being your stupidity w.r.t. to dependencies (instead of simple static compilation) to Windows.

@Anonymous (IP: ---.client.attbi.com)
by A nun, he moos on Sun 25th Jan 2004 18:00 UTC

Sometimes the facts hurt, Mr Anun and moose.

Except that this is not one of those times, Mr. Attbi Troll, because what the original poster said was simply untrue. I am not hurt, just surprised that the post, which was rude and inflammatory in addition to be false, wasn't moderated down.

Linux is slow, applications take longer to launch,

Actually, Linux is quite fast and applications launch quickly when one uses the same pre-load trick that is used in Windows. You're just spewing the same old tired FUD in another attempt to troll a Linux thread.

and no one wants that software brought to Windows.

Well, obviously some people want it brought to Windows, since it is available for Windows.

And thank you Linux, for being your stupidity w.r.t. to dependencies (instead of simple static compilation) to Windows.

That sentence doesn't make any sense. I assume you're harping on the Linux dependency myth. Well, I haven't had a single problem with dependencies for months. Not a single one. With modern package managers, dependencies are a thing of the past. You'll have to find something else to spread your FUD about...

RE: RE: Re: wtf
by boogaboo on Mon 26th Jan 2004 02:46 UTC

I know I should not feed the trolls, but what the hell.

If you don't like it, fine! Who cares? I don't like Windows but I don't go on and on about what a crappy unusable command line environment Windows has, or how expensive Windows and server software for Windows is versus the retail products for Linux.

Like my grandmother alwasy said, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."