Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Thu 4th Mar 2004 20:52 UTC
Internet & Networking A few months ago, I briefly tried SpeedDownload but I didn't evaluate it in-depth. I realized recently that the time had come to spend more time with it and write a review. SpeedDownload2 is a download manager for Mac OS X. In an older review at SpyMac, they called YazSoft's SpeedDownload2 a "wonder of development." Were they right?
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so i'm curious
by captain america on Thu 4th Mar 2004 21:13 UTC

does aside from the gui-goodness, does this supply any major benefit over wget? likewise is there a need for an app like this if you dont download large items?

re sd2
by Anonymous on Thu 4th Mar 2004 21:13 UTC

speed download sucks in general.
it adds stupid unecassary stuff to ur system
with safaris new download manager, sd 2 is useless!!!
and if u ever wanna use a download manager... iGetter is much better !

SD2
by teknishn on Thu 4th Mar 2004 21:19 UTC

hmm....seems like a decent app, but I'd have to say Safari's new download manager is more than adequite.

"Speed" download
by Me, Myself, I on Thu 4th Mar 2004 21:46 UTC

And in what way does it speed up downloads.....

The Point?
by Owen Anderson on Thu 4th Mar 2004 22:15 UTC

I don't see the point in this if you're using the newest Safari, which supports file resuming.

SpeedDownload
by BlackMacX on Thu 4th Mar 2004 22:40 UTC

The beauty of this application is that is attempts to open multiple download sessions for whatever file you're trying to get; therefore you have more connections getting small chunks of data as opposed to a single big file from a single source. Safari's DL manager is okay, but it's not the fastest or most efficient way of getting a file.

Just my 2c worth.

Cheers,

BlackMacX

RE: Anonymous Coward
by James Dorn on Thu 4th Mar 2004 22:52 UTC

And in what way does it speed up downloads.....

In at least the windows version of similer apps, it connects to a download server multiple times, or even looks for mirrors. See some sites have a download cap per connection. This app gets around it.

Eugenia
by TheDude on Thu 4th Mar 2004 22:53 UTC

More Mac reviews please! I've been trying to find an alternative to ProzGui for my Mac and you hit the nail on the head. Thanks!

Useless junk, brilliant marketing
by Jay on Thu 4th Mar 2004 23:07 UTC


These guys have somehow turn a useless product into a household name through ingenius and often dishonest (just look on VersionTracker and you'll fishy 5-star entries) marketing.

SD doesn't speed up a dial-up connection (they admit this themselves). And with a broadband connection, download is already so fast I don't see the point of messing with a 3rd party software just to speed things up. Besides, it doesn't speed up all downloads - only downloads from servers that have throttling in place to regulate downloads. This piece of shit software "get around" that and mess things up for servers providing those downloads.

Lots of users admit that they use it for the placebo effect. Please don't waste money on this junk.

simple
by Anonymous on Thu 4th Mar 2004 23:58 UTC
all right i'm blind
by Anonymous on Thu 4th Mar 2004 23:59 UTC

ignore previous post on wget, i see somebody already mentioned it...like the very first post.

sigh.

v The best part of SD2
by incredulous on Fri 5th Mar 2004 00:13 UTC
v RE: The best part of SD2
by Eugenia on Fri 5th Mar 2004 00:16 UTC
Speed Download worth it imho...
by Chris H on Fri 5th Mar 2004 01:53 UTC

I've tried other download managers for the Mac and Speeddownload is by far the best.. I download large files regularly from sites that sometimes require a username/pass (which is impossible with wget as far as I know).. it integrates nicely with every browser and supplies a cli tool that I can use to add things to the queue remotely. Other people's opinions aside.. I like it.. I second the 9/10 rating..

v Why
by Anonymous on Fri 5th Mar 2004 02:34 UTC
v RE: Why
by Eugenia on Fri 5th Mar 2004 02:44 UTC
v Why a download manager for MAC is news?
by Daniel on Fri 5th Mar 2004 03:14 UTC
Happy with Speed Download 2
by Samuel J. Klein on Fri 5th Mar 2004 03:31 UTC

I've used Speed Download 2 for nearly a year now, and I'm very happy with it. I've found it easy to use, almost self-explanatory, and since I"m still using Jaguar absolutely essential (it bugged me that no browser/dl mgr that came with the system had any resume dl/crash recovery, a feature I'd learned to love in Telix and take for granted since the days of Zmodem and Kermit). Since I have a dialup connection with a bandwidth of about half a bit, I'm prone to disconnection if I ask my browser to do anything whilst I have my download going in the background, so this is vital!
Also impressive is the price ($20) and the upgrade price ($NOTHING), and all upgrades have worked well with Jaguar. For someone who is still evaulating upgrading to Panther, it's nice to (so far) not be forced up to 10.3 before I'm ready.
SD is an excellent value.

Re: Speed Download worth it imho...
by Ezra on Fri 5th Mar 2004 04:29 UTC

well since wget isn't even standard in OS X, one would use curl, which does support usernames. Just do curl -u username:password -O http://path/to/file

Re: Speed Download worth it imho...
by mpj on Fri 5th Mar 2004 07:56 UTC

generally, it is advisable to avoid putting one's password directly in a command as it is assessable via history. most commands allow one to enter their password interactively:

curl --user username -O http://path/to/file

Reminds me of.....
by Craigo on Fri 5th Mar 2004 13:08 UTC

http://www.krasu.ru/soft/chuchelo/ - Downloader For X.

But anyway.. really use 'screen' + 'wget' and you're away.

I purchased it...
by m3talsmith on Fri 5th Mar 2004 13:29 UTC

I purchased this when all I had was a crappy dialup: I still have a crappy dialup at home. I tried it for the trial period and it became an essential for me when an Apple update could take 1 day to download and you get disconnected at random. It may not be a faster download, but the banwidth throttle is absolutely perfect. It allows me to split my bandwidth up into downloading bandwidth and web browsing band width, so that I can do both at the same time without any funky site not found errors from my browser; the browser does this when there's not enough bandwidth to make a good connection to a site. Not only that but I like how they identify themselves as Safari to sites.

If anyone has a way to make wget do all the above please tell me. The scheduling's no big deal, that's what cron is for, but I love being able to throttle the download at any time. Also yes I am using the latest safari and the download resume on it is nice, when it works right, but I needed to download IT first, and how do you think I was able to do that... SD2.

Good product. Glad someone reviewed it.

//from the bandwidth challenged

Download accelerators are antisocial.
by bh on Fri 5th Mar 2004 16:09 UTC

When do people realize that download accelerators are unfair and antisocial ways to speed up their downloads. They work at the cost of others: At the cost of the server which needs to spend extra processing power and bandwidth on you, and at the cost of the other people who try to download from the same host as you do, and at the cost of the general network between you and the server. If everybody were to use download accelerators the result would be that everybody would get significantly slower download speeds, a more congested internet and a heavily overloaded server which would be able to serve many more clients if people wouldn't use these download accelerators. While download management is certainly a good thing, i'm really disturbed that "download acceleration" is widely accepted and not considered a bad and antisocial thing.

If this worked as advertised, I still wouldn't agree that it would be antisocial. If you cut the time of your download by half or more, let';s say, yhen someone else could get on after and have a faster download themsekves. I think that it would all be a wash in the long run.

The problem is that it doesn't seem to work. I don't know how many people actually have properly tested this, but I have. I havee a 3Mbs connection through Covad, and can download up to 325KBs. On sites that I can only get a fraction of that, I have tried this. Even when it opens multiple connections (very rarely), the total speed is about the same as the connection without the program. I have also found that the connection for the download drops more frequently with SD (any version) than without it, so the resume is needed more with SD than without it.

I have rarely experienced dropped downloads anyway. When I have attempted to contact them, giving the examples that I tried, they would respond with a form letter stating how good their program was. I was never able to actually get a PERSON to respond. I first tried this with Explorer on OS 9, and have tried all the later releases on X as well. The interface has gotten much better, but the performance is just as dismal. It's really too bad, as I download large (100MBs to several GBs) files from companies I do business with (Ad agencies and such) and would be happy if this did work. As I pay $99.95 a month for my ISP, I wouldn't mind paying even more if this program (or anything else that worked,nothing else I've tried has) if it did what it said.

Sorry about my spelling and grammatical errors. I didn't realize that there was no edit first window as in many other discussion groups.

if it's anything like iChat on OSX
by dopey_joe on Sat 6th Mar 2004 04:11 UTC

First experience with OS X Panther on a 640 MB G3 B/W:

Install went fine.
Started using system -- iChat crashed three times in first 10 minutes.
ThinkFree Office crashed nearly every time I loaded a Word or Excel document.
Apple's Mail client crashed every time I tried to forward a message.

Back to Windows XP!