Linked by Andy McLaughlin on Thu 19th Aug 2004 17:39 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Release 0.41 of Visopsys is now online at visopsys.org (freshmeat announcement). It is largely a supplemental (and bugfix) release for the recent 0.4 version, but continues where 0.4 left off in terms of improving the overall look and usability, as well as providing a few new user tools to experiment with.
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Cool but ugly
by Anonymous on Thu 19th Aug 2004 18:14 UTC

I think that sums up visopsys for now. Wish them all the best for the future though.

These people amaze me...
by b0gus.b0b on Thu 19th Aug 2004 18:50 UTC

You know, the kind of people who think, "I'm bored; I think I'll write an operating system." I would love to be able to have that kind of talent. Regardless of how popular such an OS ever becomes, I still think it's an absolutely amazing accomplishment.

Meanwhile, I am almost finished coding my revolutionary new program that prints "Hello World!" to screen and then exits. I just have to debug it and then I'll be done: look for the release on Freshmeat soon! :-P

uhm
by Scorchen on Thu 19th Aug 2004 18:50 UTC

In development since 1997, nearly seven years later, only a 0.4 release?

RE: uhm
by Eugenia on Thu 19th Aug 2004 18:55 UTC

People tend to have real jobs you know. My husband's OS, is still on 0.1 for 3.5 years now for example (he hasn't touched it since he got another job, 3 years ago).

Sweet!
by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th Aug 2004 19:00 UTC

Very cool this, it's really good to so many "really" alterative OSs out there (SkyOS, Syllable, Visopsys ...). I wish this project all the best ;)

"RE: RE: uhm"
by Joe Thatcher on Thu 19th Aug 2004 20:27 UTC

Definately agree; great to hear of another unique OS.
Also, Eugenia, you have made me curious, how advanced is your husband's OS? Does it have goals, or was it just intended as an exercise in programming?

"RE: RE: uhm"
by Eugenia on Thu 19th Aug 2004 20:31 UTC

It was a hobby of his (and it was already graphical at that point). He doesn't have the time to deal with it anymore though.

Does it run...
by X on Thu 19th Aug 2004 21:05 UTC

on Bochs?

Nice to see another hobby OS.
by bact' on Thu 19th Aug 2004 21:18 UTC

and this is a spirit of OSNews ;)

RE: These people amaze me...
by Cheezwog on Thu 19th Aug 2004 21:53 UTC

"I just have to debug it and then I'll be done: look for the release on Freshmeat soon! :-P"

Why not turn it into an OS?
Have a look here...
http://www.mega-tokyo.com/osfaq2/index.php/BareBones

Just put your code into the bit marked 'kernel.c'. You may need to write your own printf and a few other trivial little bits and pieces. ;)

RE: RE: uhm by eugenia
by smashIt on Thu 19th Aug 2004 23:41 UTC

do you have some screenshots of it?

RE: RE: uhm by eugenia
by Eugenia on Thu 19th Aug 2004 23:56 UTC

No. It doesn't run on VMWare, and there is no other way to get shots of it (except with a real camera onto the monitor).

RE: RE: These people amaze me... (Cheezewog)
by b0gus.b0b on Fri 20th Aug 2004 00:39 UTC

Cool link! But I'm already in trouble with my new OS at the kernel (from the link):

kernel.c

This is not exactly your average int main(). Most noteably, you do not have any library stuff available. As soon as you write so much as #include <, you have probably made the first mistake. Welcome to kernel land.


No stdio.h??? Well, there goes my using printf()!!! ;-)

Why monolithic?
by o6nH on Fri 20th Aug 2004 00:51 UTC

I'm curious about that... If i was to make my own OS it would never have a monolithic kernel... They're boring :-P exo-kernels and such are much more interesting..

re: why monolithic
by tom on Fri 20th Aug 2004 07:11 UTC

No, monolithic kernels aren't boring, and the choice whether to make it a monolithic or micro kernel design - is what the name suggests: a design choice.

My own kernel is a micro kernel by the way.

ah - and why someone calls visopsys ugly? I'm testing it at each release (and do the grim nitpicking) and I don't find it's ugly. Just think about it in this way: One programmer and designer canna do each and all at one time. Such kind of magic requires time and patience. And after all, we OS developers have other work to do to gain our life, knowya?

RE: RE: uhm
by Andy on Fri 20th Aug 2004 08:10 UTC

It was a hobby of his (and it was already graphical at that point). He doesn't have the time to deal with it anymore though.

Well, of course not. He has a wife now.

Bwahahahaha!!! ;)
Andy

RE: uhm
by Charles Childers on Fri 20th Aug 2004 08:25 UTC

> In development since 1997, nearly seven years later, only a 0.4 release?

OS development is not easy. There's a lot of research, testing, and debugging that has to be done for any useable OS. Also consider that it is the work of one person, so the total amount of time that can be invested is limited. Personally I think he's doing a great job and I wish him luck as he continues to develop it.

OSNews at it's best
by Bobthearch on Sat 21st Aug 2004 02:31 UTC

This is what OSNews does best! Downloading right now...

I've downloaded and installed most of the older versions as they were released and I can't wait to see what's next for Visopsys. Thanks to Andy McLaughlin for allowing free use of his software. Very best wishes to him and his OS.

Thanks!
-Bob

ISO troubles...
by Bobthearch on Sat 21st Aug 2004 03:45 UTC

hmmm.... The bootable CD doesn't. On main computer the boot freezes at the blue screen. On backup machine Visopsys goes through blue screen "Booting" graphic, then stops at black screen with error message regarding unrecognized filesystem.

Downloaded ISO zip file, un-compressed, and burned to CD using Adaptec Easy CD Creator.

Burned .img file to floppy, and that works just fine. Version 0.41 looks good. Sharp appearance, stable apps, and easy to use.

Thanks again. (Any ideas on the ISO problem?)
-Bob

RE: ISO troubles...
by Andy McLaughlin on Mon 23rd Aug 2004 11:18 UTC

Hi Bob, would have emailed directly but there's no address in your post;

Thanks so much for trying this out! Sorry the ISO didn't work for you... Could you post/email information about your hardware configuration (BIOS type, CDROM model, IDE configuration such as master/slave relationships, etc)? It works on all the machines/emulators I have access to, so I'd like to try and reproduce this somehow.

Andy

reply.
by Bobthearch on Tue 24th Aug 2004 05:23 UTC

I sent you an e-mail tonight. For the other readers, here is the info:

First Computer:
Dell XPS T800r; 800 mhz PIII, 384MB RAM, SoundBlasterValue sound card, Nvidia GeForce440MX AGP graphic card
On this machine the CD begins to boot, but completely freezes at the first blue page with the OS info text at top.

Backup Computer:
home-made, Intel D875PBZLK motherboard, 256MB DDR RAM, GeForce256 32MB graphic card, SoundBlaster 16, P4 2.26 Ghz 533 fsb
On this second machine, the computer boots to the blue screen, goes through the "booting" graphic, and ends at a black page with these error messages:

Error:kernelFilesystem.c:installDriver(150)
The system was not able to determine the type of this filesystem
Error:kernelInitialize.c:kernelInitialize(199)
Mounting root filesystem failed.
Error:kernelMain.c:kernelMain(73)
Initialization failed. Press any key (or the "reset" button) to reboot.
Both of these computers succesfully boot from their CD drives, including OS installations and live CD distros. The first computer successfully booted from the Visopsys floppy disks; the backup computer has no floppy drive. Both computers have name-brand modern CD drives.

I hope this info is helpful to you. Hopefully I'm not the only one having trouble with these discs...

Best Wishes,
Bob