Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 11th Sep 2004 21:54 UTC
Syllable, AtheOS Exciting updates for the Syllable OS: an updated port of the X11 "nv" driver for Nvidia cards and an SDL port that would guarantee a good number of game ports.
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Loads of updates
by Vanders on Sun 12th Sep 2004 09:39 UTC

There are going to be loads up updates over the next week or so as we're currently pulling in all the outstanding patches in preperation for the 0.5.4 release. There are patches and code coming from all over the place right now.

The SDL port is just a proof of concept; it uses libcaca to render the video in ANSI on the Terminal! It isn't going to be used for anything serious, but Michael might find the time to write a proper port at some time.

Oh and using Syllable on an nVidia card before was nice, but with the new driver it's really nice. Smoother than a babies backside.

Yeah
by Michael Saunders on Sun 12th Sep 2004 10:16 UTC

As Vanders says, the text-based SDL port is more of a demo than anything else -- it's too difficult to see what's going on in most apps. (That said, the Game Boy emulator rocks because GBs are low-res anyway!).

This is news because it shows that SDL does compile and run cleanly on Syllable, albeit without all the bells and whistles. David and I have been looking into the feasibility of native graphics; this could be a while off though (so much other stuff to do).

This'll be a very busy month for Syllable, and at the start of October all the details will be in the newsletter:

http://msa.section.me.uk/sdn/

Missing...
by Spike Burch on Sun 12th Sep 2004 17:07 UTC

Missing in the news is Terry Glass' new coldfish dock plugin that lets you control coldfish (the mp3 player) from the dock. Quite nice stuff.







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RE: Missing...
by Spike Burch on Sun 12th Sep 2004 17:12 UTC

Oh and also missing is the news of a new file picker, integrated version of the dock, and new libsyllable with the dock/filemanager shared code.

speaking of SDL and game ports
by johnMG on Sun 12th Sep 2004 19:08 UTC

What's the ETA for OpenGL on Syllable?

Is Mesa and/or DRI eventually going to be used?

RE:Is Mesa and/or DRI eventually going to be used?
by Anonymous on Sun 12th Sep 2004 21:23 UTC

iirc, there already is a Mesa port.

dhcp?
by andrew on Sun 12th Sep 2004 22:55 UTC

Are there any changes to dhcp/networking setup coming down the line? When I tried Syllable 0.5.3 I couldn't make networking happen and although I liked a lot of things about Syllable, the lack of network was a show-stopper for me.

re. OpenGL on Syllable
by johnMG on Mon 13th Sep 2004 02:06 UTC

> iirc, there already is a Mesa port.

I don't see it on Kamidake...

Also, neither Atheos nor Syllable is mentioned on the Mesa site (under "Platforms and Drivers").

Though, I see that the mesa site mentions, new as of version 6.1:
"- updated BeOS support (Philippe Houdoin)"

re: dhcp/network
by anonymous on Mon 13th Sep 2004 06:22 UTC

Should work out of the box. At least, on my home dhcp-LAN I didn't have to tell it to do anything special.

The work on syllable is pretty impressive. Keep up the good work guys! If a proper SDL port gets completed, I'll definitely start coding some little games I've been meaning to write for a while now.

RE: Mesa, DHCP
by Vanders on Mon 13th Sep 2004 07:01 UTC

The Mesa port is here: http://kamidake.other-space.com/display_entry.php?id=265

DHCP should just work. Did you try the LiveCD, or did you install Syllable? Did Syllable detect your network card(s)? There have been some bug fixes to the DHCP client since 0.5.3 as well, so it seems to be working for everyone now.

Re: Mesa, DHCP
by andrew on Mon 13th Sep 2004 09:02 UTC

> DHCP should just work
That's what I thought ;) I used what I thought should be a well supported card (intel) and it seemed to be recognised, but dhcp didn't work, and any attempts to enter settings by hand through that GUI app just locked it up.

> Did you try the LiveCD, or did you install Syllable?
I was using LiveCD. I wasn't game to install to HD once I found networking was unlikely to work for me.

>There have been some bug fixes to the DHCP client since 0.5.3
Great, I'll try again once the next version is out.

Re: Mesa, DHCP
by Vanders on Mon 13th Sep 2004 10:35 UTC

DHCP just doesn't work automatically on the LiveCD because of the way the startup scripts try to start the DHCP client. If you had installed Syllable it would almost certainly have worked fine. It was reported by a few people on the forums, and running the DHCP client manually worked fine.

LiveCD's arn't "official" releases but I'll ask BurningShadow to try and fix the problem for any future CD's he releases. In the mean time you might want to reconsider installing Syllable on your machine..

Re: Mesa, DHCP
by johnMG on Mon 13th Sep 2004 13:58 UTC

> The Mesa port is here: http://kamidake.other-space.com/display_entry.php?id=265


Whoops. Thanks for the link.

Re: Vanders
by BurningShadow on Mon 13th Sep 2004 23:41 UTC

>LiveCD's arn't "official" releases but I'll ask BurningShadow
>to try and fix the problem for any future CD's he releases. In
>the mean time you might want to reconsider installing Syllable
>on your machine..

I'll fix that.

More updates
by Spike Burch on Tue 14th Sep 2004 01:45 UTC

I have been trying to "bluecurveize" some more applications and get the new icons checked into cvs in time for the next release. Hopefully it works, and we get a more consistant appearance.

ABrowse BlueCurve
by Spike Burch on Wed 15th Sep 2004 02:12 UTC

I just finished this and uploaded it.

Screenshot:
http://www.cuodan.net/~spike/Syllable/ABrowse-BC.png

Binary:
http://www.cuodan.net/~spike/abrowse-bluecurve.tar.gz



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