SUSE Linux 9.2 was released to mirrors today. Novell is providing both the traditional Net Install Disc as well as DVD ISO's for i386 and x86_64. Here's the Distrowatch Link.
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Wait a second, SuSE is also provided as an ISO now? Go Novell! :-)
hey is there anyway i can download the iso and then convert it
to files and create a cd iso from there......plz do tell me
It has been available via torrent as long as it is in the stores. ;-)
I think the DVD ISO is x86 only until someone confirms otherwise (x86_64/9.2 is only a link to i386/9.2)
Which mirrors have it, the one linked on distrowatch is slow...
Till now one of the main reasons why some users preferred Mandrake and Red Hat/Fedora was the freely downloadable isos.
Now this advantage has gone. True, there won't be commercial applications included in the free SuSE iso, but Mandrake and Fedora don't provide them either.
I can see SuSE gaining a lot in popularity.
Well done Novell, open mindedness is a winning, unbeatable strategy.
Just look for SuSE 9.2 torrents: google, torrent search engines...
Those users will for sure now continue to whine that there are no CD ISOs. ;-(
or pro. In the DVD or in the ftp.
SuSE was the last of the "big three" distros (Fedora, Mandrake, SuSE) to hold out on releasing a DVD ISO - I tried their 9.1 Personal CD ISO and wasn't impressed with it (no GNOME and nowhere near enough apps - even Firefox wasn't installed as standard - it was on the CD, but not installed!). In fact that Personal ISO may have done them more harm than good because it looked poor up against Fedora Core 2/3 or Mandrake 10.1's DVD versions.
Anyway, the UK mirrors (in fact, 95% of the SuSE mirrors) don't have this yet, so I'm downloading from a German one instead. It may be that the full SuSE release for free might persuade me to have a closer look at their distro than I have done in the past, which is no bad thing - Novell/SuSE could certainly gain sales from this move if the free distro persuades tech people in companies that a paid version (for the support) would be worthwhile on their companies' servers.
suse's ISO installs for both, it detects and installs what is needed.
Personally for me, 9.2 was a lot slower than FC3 for x86_64, but everyone's MMV.
i like SUSE, and i wish them to do well with future products, this seems like a good move.
i will buy SUSE when i can get one with KDE4, O.O.o. v2.0, Reiser4, etc.
so maybe November 05 with SUSE 10.0Pro.............? :p
Novell has been releasing free iso's of their distro it started with 9.1
I've been running SuSE awhile and use it as my main os, but I too am drooling over the seemingly great moment in Linux history when your mentioned Reiser4, OO 2.0, and KDE4 coincide with a likely hot new kernel and we can rejoice in our new speed, capabilities, and power!
By the way I got 9.2 pro via peer to peer a couple of weeks ago, naughty me
Hi, is there anyone who already runs 9.2 in a dualboot environment with Windows XP? I once tried to install Suse 9.1 with the dual boot option, but my whole system was messed up due to an error in the partition table made by the 2.6 kernel. Is this issue solved now?
Hi, is there anyone who already runs 9.2 in a dualboot environment with Windows XP? I once tried to install Suse 9.1 with the dual boot option, but my whole system was messed up due to an error in the partition table made by the 2.6 kernel. Is this issue solved now?
It's should have worked with 9.1 also.There is nothing to it, a very straight forward process.Normally SuSE detects an other OS and proposes a bootmanager setup according to its foundings.During install SuSE 9.2 will present you an instalation screen with which you can enable/disable some options.One of them enables you to add an different boot partition.For examble if you have installed Windows XP before you install SuSE, most likely windows would reside on the first disk, first partition,for grub this is (hd0,1),lilo wants to see something like: /dev/hda1.The rest can be associated with the default settings issued by your OS during first install.Allways handy to install XP first by the way.
grub (hd0,0),lilo /dev/hda1,(first disk,first partition).
If you, like me, have many operating systems in your PC, the ideal solution is a (commercial) boot manager like Acronis OS Selector or BootIt NG: a small but extremely useful investment.
In which case you don't install LILO or GRUB to the MBR, but to the root partion. If you adopt this solution there is very little which can go wrong.
I have also installed BeOS, BSDs, Solaris...Always fine.
I personally use BootPart utility - free and handy. Like stated above, you should install LILO/GRUB to root partition (for Linux) or not install any boot managers at all (for FreeBSD).
Argh! I just bought 9.2 last week and it arrived in the mail on Friday, now the isos have been released on the net...hmph! I wasted my money.
Fine. Pirating a distribution that wasn't released. Happy?
> Hi, is there anyone who already runs 9.2 in a dualboot environment with Windows XP? I once tried to install Suse 9.1 with the dual boot option, but my whole system was messed up due to an error in the partition table made by the 2.6 kernel. Is this issue solved now?
SUSE is a painless, no-brainer dual boot. Just defrag Windows first. SUSe should detect the partition, and off ya go.
the dvd from the boxset is dual layer dvd about 7gb but the iso on site is only 3gb+
Which mirrors have it? I can't find any. All I've seen have the mini net install iso, but not the dvd...and I've looked in almost every mirror for the US.
I remember 9.1 Personal didn't include one which made it hell to install things with.
The European servers always seem to get updated first.
ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/suse/92-iso-split
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/92-iso-split
http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/Linux/MIRROR.suse/pub/suse/i386/9.2/...
"Fine. Pirating a distribution that wasn't released. Happy?"
I can sort of see where you goin with this..since they DO package some software that is not opensource with the store version of suse pro. (What you are dling via torrent) But..its not that big a deal I would say. 99% of what people "pirate" via torrent is under a free license. Its certainly not enough to get into a fight on some messageboard 
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Note: I don't use SuSe. (Debian, BSD)
The commercial dvd is dual layer with the 32bit and 64bit on the same disc. The disc was basically split in half and you need to look in the x86_64 folder for the ftp install and dvd iso for 64bit arch.
i386
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/suse/i386/9.2/
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/suse/i386/9.2/iso/SUSE-Linux-9.2-FTP-DVD.iso
x86_64
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/suse/x86_64/9.2/
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/suse/x86_64/9.2/iso/SUSE-Linux-9.2-FTP-DVD.i...
hope this clears up some confusion
Nice theory except for that x86_64/9.2 is a symlink to i386/9.2 and so you pointed twice to the same file.
> hope this clears up some confusion
No, it adds to it.
God suse makes me long for a woody netinstall...what the hell is wrong with them.
ANyway, to make this commnet worthful, can someone give me the IP of workin-g server + the exact directory I type in suse netinstall?
(2 hours after download and still no install)
It's the complete lack of support and non stop whining that gets to me. Buying a boxed set doesn't hurt anybody's bank account that much and free software developers need to eat too. How do you support Debian/BSD? I bought OpenBSD 3.6 and am ecstatic over the release and supporting the project.
I am using Mandrake since 10.0. I am really impressed with its urpmi and the number of rpms available through plf and cooker.
I tried SUSE two years back. I wanted to know that does SUSE have the same amount of rpms that are available with Mandrake ?
I really want to try SUSE.
That is also something I wish to know. Is there a repository of SUSE rpms available? Is it accessible by the FTP version?
I can understand that..
How do I support them? I am a CS student, so I help them out when I can. Bug reports, patches, etc etc
I have also purchased cd-sets from both at times in the past.
See this post here http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=73978 on how to add YaST Sources. Scroll to the post by me for information on adding the Packman server to your YaST Source directory which will help when wanting to install codecs and other software. Basically you can update Gnome and KDE packages as well others. There's also Apt4rpm here http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/article/install_apt4rpm.php for SuSE Linux users. It's a frontend for RPM though I don't know if Apt4rpm checks for digital signatures like YaST. It does supposedly check for dependencies similar to YaST.
Cheers 
I don't think SuSE has quite as many packages as MDK if you include contrib in MDK's count, but it's very close. I doubt you'd be missing much. Go ahead and try it
This is virtually the entire repository for SUSE 9.2 RPMS:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.2-i386/
Synaptic here lists 4650 packages, but I removed some components from my sources list.
They don't sound quite as many as for instance the debs in Sarge, but the reason is that many libs and other dependencies are often included in a package. Anyway you'll find virtually everything you might desire, and more
see title....I can't find anything on google either.
I've read that about t10 times already...could you handhold abit more please?
I got it thanks!
Looks like I'll be sticking with 9.1 until the server hit goes down though...
Just to add to what has been said.
SuSE 9.1 also messed up my dual boot setup, but it was not really a SuSE bug. Anyone using a 2.6 kernel may have had the same problem depending on their hardware. That bug in the 2.6 kernel has now been fixed so its no longer a problem. That applies to SuSE 9.2 to.
I can't find this information anywhere - although I'm sure it's clearly obvious and I'm just overlooking it.
I don't care for any extra commercial apps but I do want the kernel sources and developer tools that you don't find in the personal edition.
Can anyone enlighten me? Cheers
A SUSE Linux 9.2 Personal doesn't exist. FTP is "Pro" perhaps minus some commercial demos/applications.
It's pro, they have discontinued the personal edition of SUSE. Also the fact that it is a 3+ GB dvd iso didn't clue you in?
Cheers guys.
Good point Zeke re: fact that it is 3+ GB. And there was I thinking that Suse was showing Windows levels of bloat
It is neither the one nor the other. It is a good selection from Pro. It installs both on 32 and 64 bits architectures. Now the "real thing" is about 7.8 GiG, while this one is 3.2 Gig.
It has however all the most important developer tools.
If I had to use it, though, I'd need to install a few more packages that I normally use. No biggie, since one can use either apt4rpm or Yast to install a lot more.
"And there was I thinking that Suse was showing Windows levels of bloat "
People are never satisfied. Last year, with 9.1 Personal there was a deluge of complaints because it had too few packages.
Now we are beginning to hear complaints about bloat. The 32 bit install is in fact about 3 CDs of software worth (the 64 bits folder is one Gig).
I meant it as a joke - you are right: one of the great features of the Suse distro, IMHO, is indeed the wealth of packages provided. Whenever I read about a new app I'd like to try, invariably I find I already have the rpm sitting on the DVD just waiting to be installed.
I'm a great fan of Suse and have bought every version since 8.1 - but, being out of work, have not been able to afford to buy the latest. I was v excited to see a version finally available via ftp and just curious to see exactly what packages would be available for it.
"I meant it as a joke "
I know, my comment was too. I should have put a smile next to it
Does Suse offer i586 or i686 versions? I know the free one is i386, but if I purchase the box version does it give me the option of i586 or i686?
I would want it not just for the kernel, but for all apps.
Thx!
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Or Even Better...does it offer versions optimized for your processor (i.e. for me, all packages would be compiled with AMD Athlon flags)
All the packages on the ftp are the same as the ones included in the retail package except for any commercial/proprietary stuff (java/flash/rekall/etc...)
I'm not sure how they compile their binaries but looking at the ftp site most of the rpms are in the i586 dir and a few in i686. Of course there are also src and noarch rpms also. Like I said I don't know if these packages are then compiled for 586/686 respectively or not but I would assume so.
As far as bloat is concerned if you are looking for a bloated distro look no further than Debian. I mean come on, what do they have like 10000 packages in their repository?
And just for all the trolls out there or people who don't get the joke, not all of 3gb (or 7 if you have the retail package) of software is installed by default so it isnt really bloat. And SUSE is nowhere near Windows XP level of bloat. I mean come on, 3gb default install for not much more than a text editor, a crappy movie editor, a calculator and solitaire? Oh and it can't play DVD's out of the box either, how lame is that?
> I know the free one is i386, but if I purchase the box version does it give me the option of i586 or i686?
You know nothing. SUSE ships with i586 packages only (i686 optimized packages of db and glibc are the exception).
Torrent is at http://www.lokitorrent.com/download.php?id=96695
>> I know the free one is i386, but if I purchase the box version does it give me the option of i586 or i686?
>You know nothing. SUSE ships with i586 packages only (i686 optimized packages of db and glibc are the exception).
Forgive me for knowing "nothing", but the Suse website and the FTP servers label it as i386.
