posted by RandomGuy on Fri 23rd Mar 2007 14:09
Might be a weird idea but how about this:
Let people start conversations instead of submits. This way you could post your story as a conversation and it would be online immediately for those who want to read conversations.
One could then comment on it and/or suggest it should become "real" news.
This way, OSNews would have all the latest stories really fast (under conversations) while still maintaining a high signal-to-noise ratio on the main page.
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2005-07-06
I think that is a very interesting idea. If I see a news item, I could just post a conversation message about it, perhaps with a link to the item, and then it would be up to OSNews to decide if it was really newsworthy.
Obviously, original articles would be different, but that might work for everyday news.
Member since:2006-07-30
Obviously, original articles would be different, but that might work for everyday news.
Yes, but it might even work for some original articles that don't depend on pictures.
All in all I'd suggest to turn conversations into first class citizens:
Allow for more characters in the topic description - a limit I almost hit.
To prevent this from bloating the topic headline you could break the preview at an empty line after line 5 or at line 10, whatever occurs first.
Create some folders/categories for conversations or make it possible to create them.
Like "meta" for discussion about OSNews itself or a category for (potential) news items and "kitchensink" for everything else.
This way we could prevent technical writeups/discussion from drowning in the flood of jokes and OT-stuff.
How about a "Recent Conversations" section in the right column?
One might even try to integrate the editors' blogs into the Conversations section since they serve a similar purpose.
Or the UserPage could gain a "Conversations" section and default to it. You could then view all the conversations this user has started, beginning with the most recent.
This would, in fact, turn the UserPage into a blog.
Ah, the endless possibilities of the whole 2.0 thing...
So my main idea is to make OSNews more web 2.0 and user driven while retaining the high quality on the main page.
Which of these ideas would be useful and/or feasible?
Member since:2005-04-01
Unfortunately, many of your fellow readers have already complained that the site is "too Web 2.0."
But, for the record, your conversations are in your user page under "Submissions" and your conversatins can be seen in their entirety at
http://www4.osnews.com/conversations/by/RandomGuy
or whatever your username is. I don't know how this will be integrated entirely yet. Perhaps we will have something where we could "promote" a conversation, but then we will almost definitely be accused of ripping off digg.
RE[3]: Interesting Idea
by RandomGuy on Sat 24th Mar 2007 17:43
in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting Idea"
Member since:2006-07-30
Unfortunately, many of your fellow readers have already complained that the site is "too Web 2.0."
Unfortunately, yes. But I don't quite understand why.
Ok, so there should always be the old fashioned way of submitting news just like there should always be the "classic" theme.
I see, however, no reason not to introduce these features as long as they remain optional.
But, for the record, your conversations are in your user page under "Submissions" and your conversatins can be seen in their entirety at
http://www4.osnews.com/conversations/by/RandomGuy
or whatever your username is.
http://www4.osnews.com/conversations/by/RandomGuy
or whatever your username is.
Halfway there, sweet!
I don't know how this will be integrated entirely yet. Perhaps we will have something where we could "promote" a conversation, but then we will almost definitely be accused of ripping off digg.
You're getting accused anyway ;-)
Seriously though, I wouldn't make it possible to automatically promote something to the front page. Promoting should merely serve as a suggestion to the OSNews editors to make their work a little easier.
Otherwise OSNews would really become just another crappy Digg ripoff.
You see, I don't want Web2.0 just for Web2.0's sake. It must serve a purpose.
Anyway, I'm probably part of a minority and of course I understand that you won't implement a feature if I'm the only one who likes it.
Then again, maybe the people complaining are just a very vocal minority.
You should probably do some polls, just to be sure...
Anyway, I'm not one of the "I'm gonna leave if you don't implement xyz"-people, I don't even know if what I'm suggesting is a good idea or if it makes no sense at all. It's up to you to decide that.
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