I'm not, of course. But I do draw the line at being called anti-Linux, since Linux one of the most important things in my life. I am very pro-Linux, and that's an understatement. Which is why I dislike religious zealots, such as you, damaging our movement, with piss poor advocacy. You make us all look like a bunch of psychotic yahoos. I don't buy your "pro computing" facade, BTW. You are a religious fanatic. There is really no other way to put it. I've tried to put it more diplomatically in the past. But this statement is more accurate.by sbergman27 Linux/GNU/BSD/Solaris/Apple or whatever you personal *kernel* of choice is. The OS itself comes from a verity of Different sources, and is driven by different ideals; Motivation be it Political or Money, and leaders of great influence. Its shocking that communities are so divided and yet in reality are symbiotic; have complimentary goals...fight over a few % market share not the 95% enjoyed by Microsoft.
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2006-02-05
You seem to have a rather odd idea about kernels. If I use BSD, I am not using any of GNU, everything is done by BSD. Same with Solaris, and mostly the same with Apple (what they use was based originally off of bsd, but it is so heavily modified at this point you can say it comes from apple.) Linux is the only OS that pulls bits from everywhere to the degree that it does. Its not like the userland is the same on all of these systems, and only the kernel differs.
Member since:2006-03-12
I'm sorry that I have a funny Idea about kernels its perhaps because of all those common elements between platforms. I'm certain software is heavily shared between them all.
I'm happy for you to look at any software list of *any* mainstream distribution with any kernel and you may be surprised at the amount of *common* applications they share as well as even on the lowest level code in the kernels themselves. Even the more obscure ones.
Recently in direct contrast to the artificial Theo anti-collaboration speech , Airled made a powerful statement regarding the drm in the new drivers about why he wanted them to be available to BSD as apposed to just Linux "I know what its like to use an OS without available drivers". Its not the exact quote, but really your not interesting in anything other than Vista.
Member since:2006-02-05
First off, I have been using linux for about 9 years now. Before that, I was on windows during my school years, and before that was a mac user. Just because I like vista, doesn't mean that is all I know, care about, or are interested in.
Secondly, there is a difference between gnu ls, and bsd ls, which is what my point is. Each of the operating systems you listed has a different set of userland applications.
Lastly, where in the hell did the comment about drm drivers come from, and what does that have to do with anything?
Member since:2006-03-12
Sorry, I didn't realize you were an expert, you couldn't supply me with a list of applications on say Ubuntu and FreeBSD so I could cross-compare 
Or perhaps you could supply a list of *shared code* and drivers between the two.
So we can do a little check. I think for someone like yourself it would be trivial to disprove.
I'm afraid I got lost in that large gnome section on the freebsd site...but I'm sure its there by mistake, probable put there by some unscrupulous cad
Member since:2005-07-24
So the user can choose KDE, 'E', or some other desktop. I prefer Gnome, but it looks like KDE may be getting ready to eclipse it. BSD allows one to choose not to use FSF sponsored software if so desired.
I sometimes get a vibe from GNU fans that goes something like:
"GNU: Love it or leave it."
Well, some people are interested in leaving it.
Doesn't mean that everyone should, though.
Member since:2005-07-24
google_ninja,
You've pretty much captured, in that paragraph, what I like about OSNews. I don't like Vista. But I like the fact that you have an informed, if favorable, opinion of it, against a backdrop of other OSes with which you are also familiar. For reasons of personal and professional history, I really cannot help but despise Microsoft. It's the truth, and I'd be dishonest not to just fess up to it.
The power of OSNews is that it brings together a diverse collection of people who can agree to disagree. Well, OK, they might incinerate one another in a flame war first. But usually they end up agreeing to disagree... usually having learned a thing or two from each other.
Which brings me to... Cyclops. OSnews V4 offers private messaging. Would you be interested in a private messaging session? I'm really not the monster that you think I am... despite the nasty conflicts in which we have engaged. I'm headed for bed here in a bit. But if you would care to have a private conversation tomorrow (I'm UTC-6), I would be interested. My last post to you was a bit mean-spirited. And I apologize for that, up front.
Member since:2006-03-12
The title of this topic is Linux doesn't not live in a bubble it is highlighted by your post more than any. It does what weaker Vista Users do here, and that is try to marginalize others. Their reasons are transparent
The sad fact is your trying to marginalize a community within a already small community and thats insane, and I have had said so. The reasons are never *technical* or even *political* otherwise language like yours would not need to be used.
Its increasingly a tactic used by Vista Users, who think its acceptable to use such language, and they do so because thats how they act in real life.
As is evident with MollyC who showed herself to practice a form of what she I have no doubt believes an acceptable(sic) racism in real life.
I'm *glad* that the *real* you has come out. The sad fact is you claim to support Linux, unfortunately for you you are attacking a group that constantly and consistently promotes it, and have many successes...but as we can see you cannot provide any real reasons to you practice your own form of hatred. The only thing different about this post is you practice your hatred through less transparent words.