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All user-operated moderation systems inevitably boil down to popularity contests. No reason to worry to any degree.
Yeah, the asymmetry of the voting system bugs me too.
To be perfectly honest, most of the time I use it as a tool to prevent trolls from derailing otherwise interesting threads.
And sometimes I vote a comment up to say "Thanks!" if somebody answered one of my questions and I'm too lazy to write a reply.
Or if somebody asked an interesting question.
If my comment gets rated very well, then it is because of how intelligent, witty, and generally insightful I am.
If my comment is rated poorly, it is probably because of trolls - or perhaps it was so deep that most of the unenlightened ones just didn't get.
Works for me!
Maybe it's not the trolls that are doing the rating. Perhaps the trolls are the ones being rated.
Something to think about.
I mod down stupid, silly, inaccurate viewpoints all the time when they aren't backed by facts. Especially when they become hostile over their inaccurate opinions. No, religion doesn't apply, I mod Linux, Windows, Mac, *OS lovers and haters equally.
If you "think" or "feel" it's right, but you can't or won't prove it with science, it's yet another troll (YAT) that I'm going to mod down. ESPECIALLY if the name calling starts (IE: use linsux or Microsoft and that's an instant -1. Don't like it, too bad.)
osnews changed mdollar to microsoft, nice! I meant Linsux or M $.
I have my settings set to -5 so that I can see anything, I'm fed up with the voting system.
Why can't the mod downs get sent to osnews admins to check if they have be modded down correctly... obviously some may need to be checked with the person who voted down.
Too many people seem to think saying something against their fav OS is an insult, or disagreeing with the conclusions of an article... that's certain to get you down to minus 5 before half an hour is up.
Maybe the ratings comments have could be an option. Off by default. That way if you want to see what your peers think you can turn it on, if you don't you see everything with the rating hidden, so that it's more like a forum.
Why can't the mod downs get sent to osnews admins to check if they have be modded down correctly
It used to work that way, but the volume got too high to maintain. Users already do a pretty good job of weeding out the trolls by themselves.
Yes, but they don't. what they do a pretty good job of is modding down anyone who says anything about microsoft in a linux article or anyone who says anything about linux in a ms article. Half the mod downs I see don't appear to meet any of the three reasons for modding down a post.
Why don't you give people the ability to hide posts that get over 5 mod ups in the same way you hide post that get minus 5? This would discourage people from just modding up anyone to 30 points who says anything anti MS, no matter what the theme of the article is. most posts I see that get over 20 pluses usually are jokes at a previous posters expense, insults concealed by clever wording and smileys or bashing someone elses opinion of an os.
Or limit the amount a post can get modded up to 5. Anyone who has been at os news for a while knows an easy way to an increase to your average point rating is to slag of MS in an article about ms, or linux in article about linux. If you can manage to make it funny, you get even more points. Most of the time these comments are off topic, insulting etc., so I don't see anything wrong with limiting them.
Or at least shwo the stats for how many people are modding up and down... that way I'd at least fell better knowing not everyone agrees that the post is so great it needs 30 points added to it.
Who cares? Does it really matter so much if a comment is over-modded? Don't be so serious about this crap - it's a website. Anyway, I think it's a little dramatic to say that every anti-Microsoft comment is granted a +30, when I can tell you for a fact it's not even close to true. I watch the super high and super low mods, and you'd be surprised how good a job users do on the whole.
If you're so upset, go vote on the votes at this URL:
and you can help people mod properly.
Some examples that go against your theory:
Anti-Theo de Raadt (OpenBSD)
Anti-Andrew Morton (Linux):
Good comments are generally rewarded no matter who they discuss.
This deals with many stories, not just the "How to Recognize a Good Programmer." Sure, people are comparing non-degree to degree, but then we get comments like...
There is a difference between and unpopular opinion, and a comment that violates the spirit of the message board. Let's look at two comments:
1.) It's a pity that SCO lost the case.
2.) The people who ruined SCO should be executed.
Comment 1 would be an unpopular comment, but I believe they should be allowed their right to say it.
Comment 2 is different because it has a hurtful intent, and the intent is to hurt people.
Let's look at another set of comments.
1.) Apple invented the graphic user interface.
2.) Apple has the best graphic user interface.
Comment 1 is incorrect, and might mislead someone, but with comment 2, a new computer user should be able to differentiate that it is just an opinion.