posted by Bobthearch on Wed 13th Feb 2008 01:14
Conversations I mentioned this in another topic, but think the problem deserves it's own discussion. Since the new OSNews site launch, I have been unable to vote for comments. It does work occationally, once a day on average, but I cannot find any pattern or cause for the problem.

It appears as if the "+" and "-" buttons aren't working most of the time, or they're simply .gif images. My cursor changes as the mouse scrolls over, but clicking on them does nothing.

I have 19 votes remaining currently, the browser IE6, and I've enabled cookies. If anyone can figure this out...
Previous ConversationNext Conversation
Comments:
Real browser?
by sbergman27 on Wed 13th Feb 2008 15:34 UTC
sbergman27
Member since:
2005-07-24

Does it work if you use a real browser? Not all sites care to cater to broken ones.

Reply Score: 2

RE: Real browser?
by Adam S on Wed 13th Feb 2008 16:33 in reply to "Real browser?"
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

Haha.

I have not tested the site in IE6 and I do not have access to it. No one else has reported this problem. If you want to troubleshoot it, email me personally and we'll look into it.

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Real browser?
by Bobthearch on Wed 13th Feb 2008 17:49 in reply to "RE: Real browser?"
Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

If you'd like, I'd be happy to. Otherwise I'll just upgrade my browser to a newer version.

Reply Score: 1

RE[3]: Real browser?
by Adam S on Wed 13th Feb 2008 18:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Real browser?"
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

Up to you. If you're willing to help, I'd be glad to look into fixing it, if it is, in fact, a problem. Voting, in general, was tested on IE6 when it was developed, and it's really standard AJAX. Do you have javascript enabled?

Reply Score: 1

RE[4]: Real browser?
by google_ninja on Sun 17th Feb 2008 04:26 in reply to "RE[3]: Real browser?"
google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

and it's really standard AJAX.


I just took a peek at the javascript, and you are right, you dont get much more standard then that. did you roll that ajax.js file yourself?

I don't know where your javascripting ability is at, and I realise you probably dont want to redo stuff for no real reason, but I *HIGHLY* recommend checking out jquery (http://jquery.com/), it has become so much a part of my daily life that I don't think I could code javascript without it. It includes a dead simple ajax implementation too (only a fraction of what it does), literally just $.post(url, params, callback). So you could do something like

$.post("mod.php", { uid: "10232", modup: false }, function() { alert("AJAX done!!"); });

which would POST to mod.php with two paramaters (uid, and modup), and execute the anonymous function that does the alert when it completes.

So anyways, feel free to ignore me, but I plug it to pretty much every web guy I run accross.

Reply Score: 2

RE[2]: Real browser?
by sbergman27 on Wed 13th Feb 2008 18:27 in reply to "RE: Real browser?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

I'm not sure if my comment really came off right or not. But I want to be clear that I was not criticizing you, Adam. I would respect you for not caring about broken browsers. But I would also respect you for being willing to devote time to making the site work even with broken ones... if the user is willing to help.

To the original poster:

Come on in. The water's fine. Using a more standards compliant browser is an easy way to do a little something to make the web a better place for us all. :-)

Reply Score: 2

RE: Real browser?
by Bobthearch on Wed 13th Feb 2008 17:48 in reply to "Real browser?"
Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

Thanks for the 'smart' answer. Never had a problem with any other websites though. And since IE6 comes with WindowsXP, I assumed that's what most other people are also using.

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Real browser?
by sbergman27 on Wed 13th Feb 2008 18:35 in reply to "RE: Real browser?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Thanks for the 'smart' answer. Never had a problem with any other websites though.


It was a little nasty, yes. Comes from 20 years of supporting superior technologies that were blocked by the ubiquity of Microsoft products.

Of course you don't have problems with many sites when using the broken browser that most of the sheep use. Web designers and developers bend over backwards, wasting untold resources, to accommodate it. And sometimes *only* it.

Reply Score: 2

RE[2]: Real browser?
by Soulbender on Mon 18th Feb 2008 09:06 in reply to "RE: Real browser?"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

And since IE6 comes with WindowsXP, I assumed that's what most other people are also using.


I assume most people running XP has automatic updates turned on and thus are using IE7 nowadays.

Reply Score: 2

RE: Real browser?
by BiPolar on Fri 15th Feb 2008 11:34 in reply to "Real browser?"
BiPolar Member since:
2007-07-06

Does it work if you use a real browser? Not all sites care to cater to broken ones.


Firefox 2.0.0.11 is real enough for you?

I had stumbled upon this +/- buttons issue several times now. In fact, in this very conversation, I'm unable to mod up or down, for the butttons are not shown at all, albeit the cursor changes to a pointing hand over the "Score: X" label.

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Real browser?
by Bobthearch on Sat 16th Feb 2008 18:16 in reply to "RE: Real browser?"
Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

I've upgraded to Firefox 2.0.0.12 and have noticed no problems at all.

Thanks,
-Bob

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Real browser?
by Bobthearch on Sat 16th Feb 2008 18:17 in reply to "RE: Real browser?"
Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

I don't think the Conversations area is supposed to have the + and - buttons.

Reply Score: 1