posted by fretinator on Mon 20th Oct 2008 21:29
Conversations 1. GPL vs. BSD
2. The newest theme for the newest Fedora (and how it rocks or blows)
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5. An analysis of Steve Job's latest bowel movement
6. Cool features in AIX
7. Ubuntu 7.10.00000000000000000001 beta 47
8. Which OS is REALLY the most secure
9. Vista sucks/rocks/causes cancer/loves me
10. How we can "tweak" the moderation system to make that last user happy
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Agree. But....
by Bobthearch on Mon 20th Oct 2008 22:06 UTC
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Looking at the 20 stories currently displayed on the front cover of OSNews. Eliminate stories of the Big-3 (Mac, Windows, Linux). Eliminate hardware reviews. Eliminate stories that are focused on Applications, not operating systems. What's left?

But... here it is... If you (we) want better/different stories, you (we) need to submit better stories.

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RE: Agree. But....
by fretinator on Tue 21st Oct 2008 13:38 in reply to "Agree. But...."
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2005-07-06

But... here it is... If you (we) want better/different stories, you (we) need to submit better stories.


Well said! I was really just having fun, but you make a good point.

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Funny...
by irbis on Wed 22nd Oct 2008 11:47 UTC
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2005-07-08

Haha... Funny, and I mostly agree. ;)

How ever, I wouldn't agree on the 8. item. I think OS security is a serious and important matter, although quarreling over which OS is more secure than another one may get a bit childish at times...

But still, in my opinion, all too few users and even OS developers care for OS security seriously. One of the main reasons why we have so huge a computer virus problem in the world and why computer and network crime is one of the most successful forms of crime nowadays.

Often I hope that something like OpenBSD would be the most used OS in the world (there would be quite enough hardware support and drivers for it then too, by the way) but people want to everything as easy as possible rather than as secure as possible.

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RE: Funny...
by fretinator on Wed 22nd Oct 2008 14:38 in reply to "Funny..."
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2005-07-06

I use OpenBSD, especially on some of my older laptops. It has great wireless support. But the install would frighten many users. I don't think that will change, because OpenBSD seems to me to be a geek OS created for other geeks. If others use it, so be it, but I don't think much effort will be extended to help them.

One question on OpenBSD - how do I keep the system "up-to-date",especially non-base system packages. On my Linux boxes, I receive regular security updates (RHEL, Ubuntu, etc). What is the process in OpenBSD? Should I be running -Current. Wouldn't that be less stable. Just wondering, since it affects security.

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RE[2]: Funny...
by irbis on Wed 22nd Oct 2008 16:59 in reply to "RE: Funny..."
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2005-07-08

I suppose the best (officially supported) way of remotely updating OpenBSD packages is using pkg_add and its new features designed for that purpose. It is explained here: http://prefetch.net/blog/index.php/2007/01/28/updating-openbsd-pack...

Then there are, of course, many other, less officially supported ways too: ports, pkg-src etc.

A agree that OpenBSD is a geek OS. But that position is partly explained by it being so small niche OS only. Haiku or Syllable are examples of a geek OS too although they aim at easy desktop usability, simply because they are so small. If we happened to live in an imaginary world where there would be no Linux nor other Unices like FreeBSD or Solaris, only OpenBSD, OpenBSD would automatically have much more developers, support, hardware drivers & usability support too. For example, there would likely be something like Mac OS X based on OpenBSD in that imaginary situation.

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RE: Funny...
by StephenBeDoper on Sat 25th Oct 2008 07:47 in reply to "Funny..."
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2005-07-06

Security is definitely an interesting topic, but I've found that security discussions here usually devolve into people flinging vulnerability advisory links back and forth.

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Comment by Anonymous Penguin
by Anonymous Penguin on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 15:19 UTC
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10. How we can "tweak" the moderation system to make that last user happy


How about making it "normal", that is, like in most other forums? What do I mean? Choose moderators among trusted users.

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