posted by sultanqasim on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 02:40
Conversations Is it just me or is there a growing anti-apple sentiment here at OSNews. Apple hasn't been so froendly with some things lately but nowadays, if anyone says nearly anything supporting apple, they are down are modded down and are ganged up on by multiple hostile flamers. I know this sounds whiny but its starting to piss me off. If you disagree, hate me, dont care about me or other SANE apple supporters (who are being generalized as "fanboys"), the go ahead, mod us down. But is it just me or is there a growing trend of disappointment and discontent about OSNews popularity contests?
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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 08:51 UTC
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Ebb and flow.

Everything's focused on the iPhone (and it's shortcomings) at the moment, and this Psystar case.

The flow might reverse come Snow Leopard. I'm genuinely looking forward to learning more about the engineering in it. It could be one of the more significant OS releases in recent times.

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by RandomGuy on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 12:59 UTC
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Apple stories have always resulted in rather emotional discussions and dragging the "I'm too freakin' stupid to make content protection work" DMCA into this has only made things worse.

Plus, Apple spent a lot of time and money creating a cool, hip image. In the last couple of month they have clearly shown that they are even more anal retentive than MS. I mean, come on, trying to prevent people from publishing the app store related rejection letters is so ridiculous it just blows my mind. And now this case of "We're selling something and a company buys and uses it - oh noes!".

Then there are people in the pro-Apple crowd claiming that reselling changed books is illegal - something nearly everybody has done. But you can tell them this a bazillion times and they still won't learn.

Overall, I think hostile reactions are unfortunate but were to be expected given Apple's latest track record of suppressing the little guy and the stubbornness of some of its fanboys...

PS: No, I didn't mod anybody down.

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RE: Topics
by sultanqasim on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 21:32 in reply to "Topics"
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Thanks for not modding people down. People do have a right to be disappointed with some of apple recent actions and I have nothing against that opinion (and I have to agree with these opinions sometimes).

Its the flaming and modding down that is done by *some* OSNews members that pisses me off. Just post a cool headed comment if you disagree ;)

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its not hard
by google_ninja on Thu 4th Dec 2008 01:28 UTC
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Apple has spent the last few years basically saying if you don't use an apple product, you are an uncool idiot. As more and more people actually use the products, the backlash gets stronger and stronger.

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RE: its not hard
by Moochman on Thu 4th Dec 2008 23:58 in reply to "its not hard"
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I honestly have no clue what "backlash" you're talking about.

I haven't met a single Mac "convert" who hasn't become something of a raving Apple lunatic themselves. If anything each new generation of converts exhibits successively strengthened conviction, as Vista is almost universally thought to suck and Macs have become truly cool and elite.

Of course in today's market of sub-$500 PCs, one might suspect that the high price of Macs demands a certain rationalization of the purchase... ;)

Anyway, this backlash you're seeing on OSNews has everything to do with OS geeks--many being long-time Apple supporters--becoming disillusioned with an Apple that seems much less benevolent than they were thought to believe. I suspect it has very little to do with the rising wave of Apple/Mac converts, most of who haven't the slightest clue about App store acceptance policies.

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RE[2]: its not hard
by Flatland_Spider on Fri 5th Dec 2008 04:50 in reply to "RE: its not hard"
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He's talking about the backlash that happens when something is overexposed. People just get sick of hearing about companies or products after a while, and they just turn off or go on the Internet and mod people down.

It happened with Nike where they were putting a swoosh on everything. The counted that at one time Tiger Woods was wearing 20 different logos at one time. Nike has since toned it down to keep from overexposing the brand.

Another example would be people repeating a catch phrase ad nauseum until someone snaps on them. The grating "I'm a Mac" commercials haven't helped anything.

I'm sure the disillusionment doesn't help, but, really, they should have seen that coming.

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RE[2]: its not hard
by portamenteff on Sat 6th Dec 2008 20:16 in reply to "RE: its not hard"
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That's a good point you have made. This "Apple pie" better taste good because it was more than double the cost of a PC pie. Apple user's lack of originality with their "I'm cooler than you because I don't get viruses" attitude was stolen from Linux users. I thought being cool meant going your own way, not regurgitating some other group's arguments.

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You're right
by alcibiades on Sun 7th Dec 2008 08:43 UTC
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You are correct, there is increasing hostility to Apple here. I argued some time ago that Apple actively solicited it by its marketing, because it was an essential part of its positioning to make its user feel a denigrated and misunderstood minority, thus promoting cohesion and a sense of the righteous misunderstood.

Now its rather coming home to roost.

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