posted by SReilly on Sun 29th Mar 2009 05:25
Conversations Yesterday, I got pretty wound up with a post made advising someone to use BSD code for their wireless drivers as 1) GPL'd code would magically turn their whole OS GPL and 2) the GPL'd code was probably originally BSD but had been co-opted.

To say the least, this really ticked me off! The post I made in reply was quite inflammatory (it was deleted and quite rightly so) but my point still remains. I find such drumming up of bad feelings in the open source world extremely detrimental and find it quite abhorrent, not to mention counter productive.

How do you people feel about this? Hopefully, I'm not alone in these sentiments.
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I agree
by fretinator on Mon 30th Mar 2009 02:09 UTC
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It reminds me of all the Christian denominations who fight oveer a word in a creed, or over an interpretation over one verse. To the rest of the world, it looks absolutely childish. The same is true of some of the "religious" battles over licenses, or over interpretations of one of Father Richard's 4 commandments. It looks pretty goofy to the rest of the world.

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RE: I agree
by SReilly on Mon 30th Mar 2009 10:35 in reply to "I agree"
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Lol! Pretty good analogy, nice one.

It always ends up either angering me or getting me down. The sheer uselessness of the argument just ends up boggling the mind!

One thing I could understand is if BSD code was regularly co-opted by GPL project but the only time I have heard of this happening, it was quickly fixed. Respect for the BSD licenses is very high in the GPL world and the re-licensing of BSD code is severally frowned upon so I don't really understand where this animosity comes from.

I do understand that re-licensing BSD software as GPL seems more of a betrayal than using it for a closed source project as in the end, the license and copyright must be included with that project.

As for the flip side, I have heard more than one (but one more than others) complain about the BSDs as if they where some kind of sellouts. Frankly, I can't understand how people who want to give away their code with less restrictions could be considered sellouts.

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Uhm
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 30th Mar 2009 13:46 UTC
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Well, you did get wound up over it, didn't you? In what sense are you better or worse than the original poster...?

I'm not trying to be a dick here, just pointing out that getting worked up over it is exactly what a troll wants. In other words, he succeeded.

It's just a comment on a stupid web page. Nothing more, nothing less.

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RE: Uhm
by SReilly on Mon 30th Mar 2009 16:07 in reply to "Uhm"
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If that's how you feel about it, fair enough but it neither answers my question of negates my right to feel otherwise about it.

You may feel that feeding a troll is what they want but oft times these people don't even realize they are trolling. I've found that usually, all these people need is a good slapping. As I'm not standing in front of him, I felt a bit of verbal abuse was in order ;-p

Oh, and I believe I did mention flipping out. I'm not trying to be a dick but, although totally unnecessary, thanks for pointing it out again.

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Comment by sbergman27
by sbergman27 on Mon 30th Mar 2009 22:03 UTC
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How do you people feel about this?

I feel that it is ten times easier to make enemies than friends, and that one enemy can do more damage than ten friends can make up for. And that, consequently, the zealots in any camp are, ultimately, that camp's worst liabilities. Which is actually an argument for the revival of ritual sacrifice. But that's for another thread...

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RE: Comment by sbergman27
by SReilly on Tue 31st Mar 2009 14:03 in reply to "Comment by sbergman27"
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Ritual sacrifice you say? That sounds even better than a good slapping. I'll definitely take it under consideration.

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