posted by kaiwai on Sat 27th Jun 2009 03:32
Conversations I'm going to have a piss and moan; what is it with American companies who refuse to sell to international customers. Take Amazon for example, I looked up Windows 7 hoping to pre-order it and get a discount for my parents two computers and this is what I face:

"Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S."

What is it with American business hatred of overseas customers? Isn't our money good enough? are most America business still living in an age where only a handful of countries matter?

It bloody frustrates me when I see businesses with such a myopic vision that they deliberately exclude people from purchasing a product. I don't care whether it is Amazon or Microsoft, which ever the case maybe, its a stupid policy.

What does everyone else think of it? for me, this isn't the first time I've been pissed off with US businesses refusing to ship outside of the US.
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Hatred or pain to ship/charge/tax?
by bousozoku on Sat 27th Jun 2009 06:16 UTC
bousozoku
Member since:
2006-01-23

Why do you assume that it's hatred?

I'd think that it would be a pain to do such business when you're not set up to do business with another country.

Multiple currencies, laws of distribution, distribution agreements, taxes, and shipping all contribute to someone's headache.

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Why do you assume that it's hatred?

I'd think that it would be a pain to do such business when you're not set up to do business with another country.

Multiple currencies, laws of distribution, distribution agreements, taxes, and shipping all contribute to someone's headache.


Oh come on, I regularly purchase books from:

http://www.artscroll.com/

They aren't a multibillion dollar organisation; I regularly order *** scriptural books form them without any problems. There are many organisations within the US who are quite happy to send over to me - any customs duties or taxes are my responsibility at my end (the customs department send out a letter if there is money that needs to be paid).

Amazon themselves sells books to me without any problems - why are there only a select group of items that they refuse to ship overseas?

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

oh, Come on, J e w i s h is considered a swear word that needs to be changed to asterisks? Talk about a crap web master who can't get his act together.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Dude, you could've just emailed us and we'd have fixed it (I guess this whole email-the-crew thing is still a very difficult for you to grasp). This is a remnant from a while ago when we had a number of people using these words as racial slurs, so Adam (with a *** background himself if I'm not mistaken) and I decided to take this route, instead of having to sift through every comment.

I'm talking like, I don't know, 4 years ago or something? Like we've told you a million times, Kaiwai, if you have a problem with the site, a bug, or whatever, we have an email address. The conversation section is not a damn bugzilla.

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I email and then ignored; I find therefore that using a megaphone tends to get things rolling along quicker.

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Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

It must be exhausting being you. The world is always wronging you, isn't it?

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

It must be exhausting being you. The world is always wronging you, isn't it?


It must be exhausting firing off a reply without reading the full post, the nature of the post, the style of the post (the deliberate using of hyperbole to make a point) or the complete ignoring of the fact that once again international customers are being screwed over by Microsoft.

I find it funny we here people complain about how they get 'screwed over' by Apple with price disparity between the EU, UK and the US but when it comes to Microsoft refusing to allow international customers to take advantage of pre-sales discount you seem to change your tune.

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bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23


Oh come on, I regularly purchase books from:

http://www.artscroll.com/

They aren't a multibillion dollar organisation; I regularly order *** scriptural books form them without any problems. There are many organisations within the US who are quite happy to send over to me - any customs duties or taxes are my responsibility at my end (the customs department send out a letter if there is money that needs to be paid).

Amazon themselves sells books to me without any problems - why are there only a select group of items that they refuse to ship overseas?


Is it just paranoia or are people really out to get you? I really didn't think anyone else was worse than I was, but obviously, you take the gold at being wounded.

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Is it just paranoia or are people really out to get you? I really didn't think anyone else was worse than I was, but obviously, you take the gold at being wounded.


I'd only be paranoid if they were targeted just me; I'm pointing out the fact that Amazon/Microsoft are refusing to extend the pre-sales discount to those outside the main centres. I don't call that paranoia, I call it a well crafted rant about getting screwed over by Microsoft.

Paranoia, however, would be if I claimed that I alone was being tarted by Microsoft.

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