posted by sbergman27 on Thu 24th Sep 2009 05:44
Conversations Hey. I've been interacting with people in a forum outside of OSNews, LWN, and my other usual haunts. It's a forum for enthusiasts of a particular type of economy car. And I must say that the experience has been ghastly. Rude. Thoughtless. And with this pervading mentality that using a lot (multiple lines) of repeating animated graphical emoticons is a sign of computer literacy. As is, of course, posting information in the form of images rather than text. You should always scan the text and post it as an image or you're just not 'leet there. And people will tell you so in no uncertain terms.

It really makes me wonder if AOL did really ruin the Internet back in the 90s and I'm just now noticing.

Anyway, I wanted to say that it has given me a new appreciation of the quality of discourse we enjoy here. Our worst trolls are more pleasant to deal with than the average participant there. Which is a shame. Because there are not many alternatives to it.
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Eh
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 24th Sep 2009 08:57 UTC
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As long as you busy little user_ids do not whine about page 1/2, I love you all too.

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by Soulbender on Thu 24th Sep 2009 10:09 in reply to "Eh"
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We whine about that because we love ya

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by Adam S on Thu 24th Sep 2009 16:33 in reply to "Eh"
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WTF?! You ought to know our db calls them uid, not user_id. Sheesh.

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by Kroc on Thu 24th Sep 2009 19:26 in reply to "RE: "
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The PHP calls them $userid.s, you insensitive clot.

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I love ya too
by Soulbender on Thu 24th Sep 2009 10:11 UTC
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And with this pervading mentality that using a lot (multiple lines) of repeating animated graphical emoticons is a sign of computer literacy


What could be more exciting than an amateurishly photoshop'ed image of some anime character no one has ever heard of?

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Probably good to remember
by fretinator on Thu 24th Sep 2009 14:30 UTC
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Every once in a while it is good for techies and nerdies to realize that life really isn't just about the gadgets and bits and bytes and lenses and disks and wires and... but it's about people.

I appreciate what Eugenia started here. At times she's a bit gruff, but when I had problems with my computer, she was quick to offer good advice (Video and X, always fun).

I appreciate those who have come since and made this a very nice site to prognosticate, gripe and moan, and poke fun at other people's favorite OS. Thanks to Thom, Adam and David. I'm sure the Ferarris and the Macbook Pros don't make up for all the grief we put you through.

And thanks to all the thoughtful ones who are passionate about computers, OS's, gadgets and what not. I learn a lot, especially from those I disagree with.

Ok, I'm going back into the cave now and dimming the lights. My 'puters are calling me.

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by sbergman27 on Thu 24th Sep 2009 14:43 in reply to "Probably good to remember"
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Thanks to Thom, Adam and David. I'm sure the Ferarris and the Macbook Pros don't make up for all the grief we put you through.

Don't forget the hookers!

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by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 25th Sep 2009 00:21 in reply to "RE: "
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I may reveal three of my elite force Storm Hookers.

http://nwmasssmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hookers.jpg

[Mildly NSFW, but no nudity]

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by David on Fri 25th Sep 2009 15:10 in reply to "RE: "
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I love that photo. I wish I had some context. Are they looking at a storm?

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by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 25th Sep 2009 16:19 in reply to "RE: "
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They are distracting the authorities while a few of my undercover upperclass hookers raid the government's baked bean stockpile.

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by David on Fri 25th Sep 2009 15:00 in reply to "Probably good to remember"
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And of course one of the features of OSNews is that every story comes with a side-order of surliness at no extra charge! That's a tradition that Eugenia started that we try very hard to uphold.

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OSnews is real nice, I have to agree
by kragil on Thu 24th Sep 2009 14:42 UTC
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LWN got some traction over the last year, before that there was not a lot of discussion. LWN is technically more interesting, but the topics aren't.

Anyways, as Slashdot and then Digg really deteriorated for geeks OSnews is still a place of a fair a amount of sanity and good discourse. (Despite sometimes rabid german Linux nerds like me ;) )

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by sbergman27 on Thu 24th Sep 2009 16:32 in reply to "OSnews is real nice, I have to agree"
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LWN is a very high quality site, and generally more cerebral, although sometimes a bit dry. OSNews is a little more passionate, with a little broader audience. And I'll admit that I do enjoy the occasional food fight. :-)

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My comment
by Novan_Leon on Thu 24th Sep 2009 16:16 UTC
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I agree. The discussions that go on here tend to be a bit more mature and interesting than those that go on at many of the other geek haunts like Slashdot or ArsTechnica.

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Update
by sbergman27 on Sun 27th Sep 2009 15:38 UTC
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Now the site has a whole long and vicious flame thread devoted exclusively to attacking me! There are a number of posters attacking. I have exactly zero supporters. And I think they mostly feel sincere... except for the guy who engineered it. I think I encroached on his turf there, by pointing out where he was mistaken on a couple of technical issues, and he's been fiendishly skillful at manipulating the mob. (I'm impressed.)

I don't stand a chance in hell of turning the situation around. It's really fascinating, in a sickening "train wreck" sort of way... although I'd as soon not have been the one juiced on the tracks. It's not why I went there.

But hey, I love you all twice as much as I did before. ;-)

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Try BetaNews sometime for a good laugh
by bousozoku on Mon 28th Sep 2009 18:25 UTC
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I've been watching http://www.betanews.com for a while and it's quite interesting how base people can be. I get the feeling the majority are 20-40, working for minimum wage, and don't have any purchased software.

Lately, the site has turned to an opinion/flamebait site, which makes the comments even more interesting.

Even the worst of the arguments on OSNews can be useful, but they've become less caustic over the last couple of years. It's good to see people who care about the issues and not about starting holy wars.

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Aww dude!
by SReilly on Tue 29th Sep 2009 18:55 UTC
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We love ya too! :-)

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