posted by elwood on Mon 30th Nov 2009 09:43
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Is there an operating system that allows to completely format its partition while it is running?
I know one that can do it. Check this video of AmigaOS 4.1:

Wiping AmigaOS while it's still running: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUoArmgzz_A

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Comment by Laurence
by Laurence on Mon 30th Nov 2009 12:45 UTC
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2007-03-26

Why would you want to format it's partition while the OS is still running?

That seems like a completely pointless capability to boast about when you're going to need an install source (CD, USB, etc) to rebuild the system from anyway.

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by elwood on Mon 30th Nov 2009 16:30 in reply to "Comment by Laurence"
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2006-02-09

To change the filesystem used on the partition as shown on the video.
This is often used while testing filesystems for instance.

Note that I don't need any USB, CD, whatever to rebuild the system. Using these would be so slow!!!

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by dvhh on Tue 1st Dec 2009 06:04 in reply to "RE: "
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2006-03-20

that would require the system to run entirely from the ram so either loading a small subset of tool and running the system form the ramdrive (which can be done with linux or embedded system, so they don't actually format the disk they are running from, only the disk they are loading from, (and rebuilding the archive they are loading from).

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by elwood on Tue 1st Dec 2009 08:37 in reply to "RE: "
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2006-02-09

So chroot-ing into the ramdrive would release the partition to allow reformatting? Yes, probably.

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by Laurence on Tue 1st Dec 2009 23:04 in reply to "RE: "
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26


To change the filesystem used on the partition as shown on the video.
This is often used while testing filesystems for instance.


There are easier ways to test filesystems.
And I can't imagine you'd want to change a root filesystem all that often (if indeed ever) unless you were testing filesystems

Note that I don't need any USB, CD, whatever to rebuild the system. Using these would be so slow!!!

In theory you're right, but in practice what you suggest wouldn't work in the real world.
OSs are more than just kernels - they're whole packages of software and some of which isn't installed by default.

To do what you're suggesting, you'd have to have set up files, vanilla config files and even the apps you don't want installed still installed on the HDD just in case the user wanted to do a hot-format.

Then you've got to hope to god that the user has more RAM than the sum of the total of all the installed files as you've got nowhere to swap the data should the RAM not be large enough to hold the entire install medium plus running install suite.


So I reiterate my original point: I can't see why anyone would want to do a hot-format.

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by sbenitezb on Thu 3rd Dec 2009 06:33 in reply to "RE: "
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2005-07-22

A hot conversion from one fs to another would be far more useful.

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Comment by Jimbo
by Jimbo on Thu 3rd Dec 2009 17:29 UTC
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2005-07-22

MS-DOS is another OS that will allow you to format the root drive (C: in this case) while its running.

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by jsutton on Tue 8th Dec 2009 04:07 UTC
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2006-03-24

Must be an excruciatingly slow month in OS4-Land.

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