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posted by Adam S on Sat 19th Apr 2008 15:23
Conversations I've wrapping up what can only be called "moderation 2," what will surely end up being the biggest rewrite of OSNews voting/moderation since it was introduced. Since we made our last changes and introduced the "report" button, we've had to field many questions and address confusion about what the vote down button means now. Rather than attempt to band-aid the confusing but functional current system, we're going to start with a new moderation paradigm.

The new system will be word based, so you'll choose a term that will assign + or - points to a comment. But before I get too into it, tell me what words you think should be available for moderation. Here's what we've got so far:

Informative, Insightful, Funny are positive mods
Troll, Inaccurate, and Offtopic are negative mods

Then we have a Report Abuse option for... you guessed it... reporting comments that violate to the TOS such as spam, personal attacks, or or hate speech.

Are we missing anything?

 

posted by stestagg on Wed 16th Apr 2008 14:34
Conversations So, I was looking at the images of Paris Hilton in London [they're on the MSN homepage, I didn't go searching for them ;) ]:

http://entertainment.uk.msn.com/celebrity/PhotoGalleries/gallery.as...

And came to the startling realisation that Paris Hilton is a Thunderbird. It seems that Lady Penelope felt the need to go undercover as an American pop-slu...star. If you look really closely at the pictures, you can even see the wires ;) .

 

posted by Laurence on Fri 11th Apr 2008 12:05
Conversations ZFS is listed as "experimental support" - does anyone know how stable and reliable this support is (or know where I can look to find more information out about FBSD's ZFS support)?
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posted by pandronic on Fri 4th Apr 2008 16:39
Conversations If I find a story that interests me very much, I might look at the comments more than once. For example - I read them first when they are just 5, then maybe when they are 25 and perhaps finally when they are 66. The problem is that I don't know which comments are new so every time I have to read them all again.

A way of marking all of them as read and than displaying them with 50% opacity or with another border/background would be a great time saver.

What do you think?
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posted by Laurence on Tue 1st Apr 2008 10:02
Conversations After recently being converted to the excellent Arch distro of Linux I'm slightly saddened to read the following announcement:

http://www.archlinux.org/ (item in pink)

While I understand that the majority of Arch users are German speaking, I also can't help thinking that this move will only hinder the distro from gaining more "market share" (for want a better term).

While there are hundreds of other distro's available, Arch was the only one (aside Slackware) I've liked: it's package manager was simple and effective, it used BSD style init's (I've never agreed with Linux's excessively complex run-time modes). But despite all the simplicity, it never felt 'dumbed down' (like the more 'mainstream' of desktop distros can do â€" particularly Ubuntu), it's free from bloat and highly configurable.

Not being a German speaker, I feel my support is going to be somewhat neglected.

What are your thoughts Arch or distro langauges in general?
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posted by Quag7 on Sun 30th Mar 2008 15:33
Conversations Most of the stuff posted on osnews.com is stuff I know about but maybe 20% or so of the stories reference a product or service I've never heard of. The summary of the story often does not give any information on what the subject being talked about actually is.

For example, the story on Automatix. I have no idea what Automatix is. A search on Wikipedia brings up an article that starts:

"Automatix Inc., founded in January 1980, was the first company to market industrial robots with built-in machine vision."

Which is, I doubt, what the story is about. It would be nice to have some kind of a short one line description in each story about what the product or service being discussed is. I suppose I can google around but this is inconvenient.
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posted by Adam S on Wed 26th Mar 2008 19:55
Conversations As some of you will immediately notice, I've disabled themeing on the site. Very few users - fewer than 1% actually - use themes at all, and we are preparing to make some site structure changes that will make maintaining themes very challenging. As a result, we've disabled themes and we will be rolling out our changes in the coming weeks or months. When we're confident our output is stable, we'll look into re-introducing themes in a new, improved, and much more complete fashion. In the meantime, the site will only be offered with our default skin. Thanks.
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posted by Dryhte on Wed 26th Mar 2008 09:49
Conversations Hi OSnews staff,

I want to attract your attention to a strange bug in the website. I've been getting an 'Important Notice' lately on OSnews about duplicate items in my sidebar (it's quite annoying because it appears above the other news items, screams to me in red, and I can't get rid of it).

Now I don't have any duplicate items in my sidebar, and what's even worse, if I 'click here', go to my account preferences and 'Set Boxes to Default' (and save), I get the message 'sidebar choices ok', but the notice remains where it was.

I hope it won't take too much time to get rid of this...

Cheers,

d.

 

posted by irbis on Tue 18th Mar 2008 21:50
Conversations There are many interesting new alternative operating systems: Syllable, Haiku etc. They may promise speed, low system requirements and many good and promising features. However, I've been hoping that also the security of these new operating systems would be discussed more.

On the age of Internet can we even imagine a desktop operating system without also a connection to the Internet? With networking comes the need for security.

Although there may be no problem now and although developers may see many more urgent goals, the potential threats of future should be considered too. I think the history of old MS Windows versions at least up to Windows ME shows that network security cannot be easily added into the OS as an afterthought but it should be thought about and build into the OS right from the start.
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posted by Michael on Tue 18th Mar 2008 12:30
Conversations Title says it all really. It seems daft that the people most interested in a particular story are actively prevented from moderating it. What's more, I can mod comments until I comment myself. So should I make sure I've got all my moderating done before I comment?

What this does is accentuate the existing problem of "the earlier you comment, the higher you will be modded". I come back to see if there are any more comments in a thread I commented on, and find there are but I can only reply to them - I can't mod them up. So all the people down the bottom of the page are at their initial score, because the only people who are reading those comments can't mod them.
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posted by TLZ_ on Tue 18th Mar 2008 10:15
Conversations I'm not entirely sure if this is the proper place to post this. My apologies if this was the wrong arena.

I'm accustomed to surfing websites on my mobile, especially news-sites. Full-web sites, no WAP or other pseudo-web thing.

Unfortunately OSnews feeds my Opera Mini(on a HTC TyTn II if that matters) a downscaled adapted version. This is probably great for those who are using a crappy browser that can't handle full HTML or have expensive mobile net.

Some of us would like the full HTML version on our mobiles

Doing one of these things would be great IMO:
- Have OSnews.com always serve a proper HTML page regardless of the device retrieving it, and have m.OSnews.com for mobile
- Continue as now, but at the top page include a link to a preferences page where you can set if you prefer the full HTML or mobile version. (And this setting is of course remembered!)

I shall be thankfull if any or the proposed solutions or something else that fixes the problem are implemente
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posted by RandomGuy on Mon 17th Mar 2008 19:53

 

posted by nzjrs on Mon 17th Mar 2008 04:53
Conversations Is it possible?
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posted by i3X171UM on Sat 15th Mar 2008 05:58
Conversations I use Google a lot to search this site. As of pretty recently, I have been noticing that relevant results have been very frequently coming from any of the following domains:

osnews.com
www4.osnews.com
mobile.osnews.com (this, specifically, should probably have a robots.txt file so it doesn't get spidered)
nmcx.com
74.86.31.159
newmobilecomputing.com
sundanced.com

You'll notice that visiting any one of these delivers the OSNews website, without redirecting. That is, http://nmcx.com/conversations does not redirect to http://www.osnews.com/conversations. It just displays the conversations page. Besides screwing with your google rankings, it confuses the hell out of me. A very simple .htaccess should be able to redirect everything to osnews.com/*
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posted by irbis on Fri 14th Mar 2008 22:17
Conversations If I remember correctly there was an option to cancel news recommendations in older OSnews? Why is there no such option now? (Or am I blind and just missing it?)

It is easy to press the recommend this article button. However, people may change their minds and they can make mistakes. There might be better articles later, like reviews of a product, and you might want to recommend only the one that seems the best one of them in your opinion, and cancel the recommendations for older poorer reviews.
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posted by Laurence on Mon 10th Mar 2008 22:05
Conversations Any chance of making this bigger?
I'm often finding myself typing my comments out into a text editor so I can easier see my full post before submitting it.

It feels particularly small when I'm quoting a parent message as i'm often need deep in quote tags.
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posted by irbis on Mon 10th Mar 2008 09:31
Conversations Here's an idea, maybe not of huge importance but might be useful sometimes.

On the OSnews "Submit News" page you can see suggested news by others. Why not give links there too? Sometimes, when I've submitted news, I've noticed there an interesting news article submitted by others. Usually the submitted news are so new that search engines like Google haven't yet indexed them and thus cannot find them if I try.

On the other hand, I could see one major headache and problem: spam and advertisements... The amount of spam in the submitted news might increase? But maybe that would not be an enormous problem after all?

(By the way, a submitted news article today that I might be interested in reading too, is "Accidental in-depth analysis of Ruby on Rails shortcomings". Does anyone know the link to that one?)
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posted by i3X171UM on Thu 6th Mar 2008 22:04
Conversations You really can't understand the impact of this SDK without watching the presentation. This is going to sweep enterprise, no question.

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/rtp20e92/event/index.html?int...

What does everyone think?
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posted by stestagg on Tue 4th Mar 2008 20:45
Conversations I found this today:

http://www.met.police.uk/so/at_hotline.htm

If you:
Have a front door that you close,
Use a camera,
Use a mobile phone
Have a white van
Use cleaning chemicals
Have a Credit Card
Use a computer
Travel
OR
Have a garage

then YOU could be a terrorist. Phone the hotline and assume the Anti-Terrorist-Submission-position while you wait for the black helicopters to arrive

;) .

 

posted by Almafeta on Tue 4th Mar 2008 18:54
Conversations Since OSnews is also a general-geek-news site when the geekiness rises to a certain level of geekiness and universal impact, would the news about Gary Gygax be appropriate to submit?