Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 14th Mar 2006 18:33 UTC, submitted by Anonymous Penguin
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris Gael Duval, creator of Mandrake Linux (now Mandriva Linux), has been fired from the company. The information leaked on the Mandriva forums, and Duval later confirmed it on his own webpage. He says: "Since the information has leaked, I will post a message in the next few days on this website about why this is the end of the Mandriva story for me, and what's next." Since Mandrake was for many the first distribution they ever tried, I think it is only fair to thank him for creating Mandrake, and to wish him the best of luck in any following endeavours.
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davidiwharper
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2006-01-01

People accuse the larger distros of 'bloat' all the time without ever explaining exactly what is the _problem_ with packaging multiple apps.

IMHO bloat can be defined as having multiple apps installed for the same task by default. Choice on the other hand is the ability to install your favourites easily at or after install time.

As long as the default installation is fairly streamlined - and it is, and of course, with Mandriva One it's even _more_ so - what's the possible harm in having lots of extra apps packaged for those users who choose to use them?

None whatsoever, but IIRC Mandriva's default setup is still fairly bloated. Hell, Discovery has something like 3 CDs. Lycoris (of old), ASPLinux 11, PCLinuxOS, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xandros and Linspire all have (had in Lycoris' case) desktops brimming with functionality after an installation from one CD. If they can do it, so can Mandriva. Hopefully Mandriva One will be the first step in this direction.

Also, there is nothing like Click-n-Run to make it easy for newbies to install packages (though I know Drak-n-Go - http://club.mandriva.com/xwiki/bin/Drakngo/ - is in the works).

What do we gain by ditching those packages and making those who use them unhappy?

What Lycoris had before Mandriva bought them, a clean desktop where all the applications in KDE are KDE/Qt apps. I don't see too many Gnome users getting Kaffeine as their default media player.


Exactly. KDE has perfectly good applications for most tasks - just as Gnome does. Only poor engineering and QA keeps Mandriva from having sane defaults for both profiles. SUSE certainly does, and it works well.

Edited 2006-03-15 07:28

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