Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 24th Apr 2006 14:05 UTC, submitted by CrimsonScythe
Apple The 17" MacBook Pro has just been released. The 17" model has Firewire 800 and 8x dual layer Superdrive, both of which the 15.4" version lacks. The new MacBook Pro was presented during the NAB2006. The machine will cost $2799,- in the US, or round and about EUR 2879,- (differs per country) in the EU, or GBP 1999,- if you live in the UK.
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RE[6]: What A Joke
by Moulinneuf on Tue 25th Apr 2006 01:02 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: What A Joke"
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2005-07-06

"From Dell's web-page. The E1705 is 1.6" thick. The Macbook Pro is 1.0" thick. Hence the Dell is 60% thicker, right? "

If you whant to categorize it as 60% thicker that way , I prefer the total space volume. The Mac Book pro is bit larger but slimer in height if thats not changed.

"However, the machine that Apple puts them in is quite a bit different in form factor and thus in price."

Its whats inside + software and service that make it at that price. The form could account for a small part of it but not the 900$ difference.

"I bought a fairly ... myself again. "

Personnal preference and older machine , I also pointed those other machine as a reference that the Dual core is not the reason why they ( macbook pro ) are pricier also that the XPS is not the only one to get them.

"While Dell's ... as much as my Inspiron did. "

8200 whas made in 2002 ,

http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/notebooks?c=c...

you see any model that look like any you owned previously ? No thats because they improved there casing so did the Apple one too.

"There is a ... leaves marks on the screen. "

I dont think the Dell people had that kind of test in mind when they designed there laptop.

"Not because I say so, but because comparing the prices of completely different products doesn't give insight into anything."

Comparing parts , intel core duo is going to be the same across the board.

"A Cessna costs a lot less than an F22 Raptor --- what insight does that knowledge afford you?"

I can buy more cesna with a hell lot less money ...

"Regarding the links to the machines: did you even try to configure them equally? "

Apple dont have the part Dell do , and Dell dont offer the parts Apple do , its pointless , please explain to me how I can have a magsafe and webcam in an xps or other Dell model ?

"Bump the processor up to 2.16 GHz, add in Bluetooth, a remote, and a 100GB 7200 RPM hard drive"

I tried adding Mac OS X and mag safe and webcam and bonjour , etc ... but the Dell rep said where not Apple ...

" For almost $600 extra, you get a faster GPU, but a machine that has no integrated camera, and is bigger and heavier to boot. "

Tried to play oblivion or any PC game on that MacBook Pro ?

"Um, did you even try and configure the two machines the same??? "

I am going to wait for the Dell price team to adapt to it first.

"I didn't say otherwise."

That whas my point , that the MacBook pro whas not priced higher vs the HP only because of the core Duo and that Dell had cheaper one if all you wanted was the CPU.

"As for the rest of your post, it hardly makes any sense at all."

Really , It rather prooved that there whas no point in making a comparaison on anything you offered.

"Of course everyone gets Core Duos for roughly the same price"

Hence its not what make the Macbook Pro be priced higher ...

"Of course you can get a cheaper laptop if it has less features, again, what is the point in saying so?"

I was only talking about the Dual core , you where the one to try and put me on the spot , your problem is you dont know all that is in the MacBook pro and you dont know the XPS that well either.

"again, what is the point in saying so?"

It show that the Dual core dont add 900$ to the price of the machine all by itself ... Because hopefully you where not trying to compare a MacBook pro offer as a gaming machine contender that would do well against any XPS offer ...

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