Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Sep 2006 15:07 UTC, submitted by SEJeff
X11, Window Managers Just when you thought fancy effects on Linux desktops started to get remotely understandable, focussing on Aiglx/Xgl with Compiz, a fork of Compiz is announced: Beryl. This is the logical continuation of the popular compiz-quinnstorm branch, used by many Ubuntu users. "During this summer, and during the last few weeks, some major additions were done in compiz-quinnstorm, bringing a whole new decorator, cgwd, which was designed to be fully themable, and a new settings backend, csm, which intended to drop most of the gnome deps - there were other reasons for this, but this is not our current subject. Consequently, we reached a situation where it's quite impossible to come back." The main reason is general unwillingness to work with and unresponsiveness to the developers of the -quinnstorm branch from the official Compiz guys.
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What I think would be a great idea...
by leech on Tue 19th Sep 2006 20:36 UTC
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Instead of all this Compiz forking for Beryl, what I think should happen is that Compiz itself should be changed simply into an API for other window managers. This way people can create plugins for said API, then just implement hooks into it. For example, create a libcompiz, then simply have metacity-compiz and kwin-compiz compiled with support for this library, which in turn will allow compiz-plugins.

The window manager itself is more than likely never to be installed by default by any of the major distributions anyhow, unless of course someone wants to create an entire DE out of it. KDE already has Kwin, Gnome has Metacity, etc. These are the ones that are the default for those projects, Compiz will never be their default. But saying that the development of it is a waste would be a bad.

Instead of doing a full fork and having a name change (which just adds more confusion to everything else, I think people were just starting to realize the difference between XGL and AIGLX) they should just have a compiz and compiz-svn or cvs. As I think Novell's intention with Compiz was just to demo their XGL anyhow, and was really never intended to become a full fledged Gnome or KDE Window Manager replacement.

It's especially going to be a moot point when the nvidia drivers and ATI drivers finally release full support for the required extension(s) for the Compiz stuff.

All in all though, good luck to all these projects. I do miss having transparency effects sometimes when I'm trying to do some work, but other than that, I still use just Metacity with Gnome.

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