Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 15th Oct 2006 18:32 UTC, submitted by martini
OS/2 and eComStation The proposed design for Voyager, which aims to become an OS/2 replacement, is now available. "Voyager is the codename for the idea of having a replacement OS/2 on top of modern technology. This idea is the result of around 1.5 years of thinking a lot about what we can do in the future as current OS/2 and eComStation users. Note that it's absolutely impossible to convey what we plan to do in a few sentences. I made a speech on it at Warpstock Europe 2005 that, by itself, took 1.5 hours so you get the point." Read the Voyager FAQ to understand what it actually is and aims to become.
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RE[4]: Well, what shall I say:
by d3vi1 on Mon 16th Oct 2006 12:59 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Well, what shall I say:"
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X is one of the greatest things ever. The arguments that I hear everythime there is an X flame are the same.
1) X has no standard widget kit. That is pretty normal as it is not the point of the project. There are NO graphical systems (including the MacOS one and the Windows one) that also provide widget sets. They are another issue. Actually, you never work with the graphical system, but with the widget set when you program. The separation is normal, and it allows GTK apps (for example), to run on Windows natively (without the need for X11).
2) Extensions are anoying? Modularity is something that makes any software great. I doubt that you need desktop compozitioning on a Cell phone, or changing the resolution on a POS. Having extensions makes the X11 framework modular, and it helps aplications when they need to query the capabilities of the host.

The following paragraphs 2 are the ones that surprised me the most. Use only the Root Window? One of the advantages of X is the fact that you can pipe different individual applications through a network connection. What would be the difference between X and Remote Desktop if I could only have the whole desktop on a remote computer, when I need only one small app.

A few weeks ago I visited a monitoring station for the national power grid. They had a huge display (roughly 30ft wide, 5 ft tall) that would show in different windows the logical map of the system, graphs of the frequency and other stuff. It was because of X11 that they could have all those applications that rand on different UNIX servers, on a central display.

I, as an administrator, have on my desktop different monitoring applications that show the status of a few, but important servers. The applications are actually running on those servers and only the display is found on my workstation.

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