Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Oct 2006 19:43 UTC, submitted by Charles A Landemaine
PC-BSD After the flood of Fedora Core 6 and Ubuntu 6.10 reviews, here is a review of PC-BSD 1.3 Beta. "PC-BSD has improved quite a bit and the use of its open-source PBI packaging system is a great idea. Although it obviously means there might be a minor delay in newly released products being ported over to the PBI package system, novice users will rejoice because the wait is well worth it. PC-BSD is a well oiled machine with its quick response times, even if you don't have that much memory in your system. Its implementation of a clean interface is welcomed by me and not having a 3D enabled desktop is not something I really would worry about unless you are an eye-candy lover."
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RE[7]: still no easy drivers
by Joe User on Wed 1st Nov 2006 12:34 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: still no easy drivers"
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Are you stupid? This is the last time I repeat my self:

Excuse me, but that's not true and you (should) know this. It can't be true because "Flash" is not available for every computer

Yes, Flash is on every computer because every computer nowadays is connected to the Internet, and you can hardly use the Internet without Flash. So the first thing you do when you set up a new computer is install Flash. Flash is available for Windows, OS X and Linux at least. So this accounts for 99% of computers.

I'd like to see the following solution: If "Flash" is availabe, use it. If not, display a "Download Video as MPEG" button

Ok, but this doesn't solve your problem. A platform that doesn't support Flash isn't legally allowed to use the MPEG codec because of software patent. If you use MPEG on Linux/BSD, you are outlaw. Ever wondered why MPlayer codecs are hosted in Hungary?

That would be great and would lead Google Video, YouTube, BlueMontain etc. to even more success and polularity.

This would account for the 1% of users who use MS-DOS, and Google and YouTube are right not to care. They are companies made to make money, and they shouldn't bother, not to mention the overhead of having 2x more disk space used for just 1% of users.

players like mplayer come with MPEG codecs

Yes, but this is illegal in most countries. AFAIK, these codecs can only be legally used only on commercial OSes.

Even non-Linux systems support MPEG, some of them even out of the box.

Yes, but non-Linux systems (and Linux systems) have Flash (because people install it), so I don't see any benefit offering MPEG.

This is a problem of MICROS~1. The OGG/Vorbis standard is widely used and the specifications are free. But I'm sure you can install the codecs if you want.

Please, this is not MS's problem. Although Ogg Vorbis is excellent, MS doesn't give a f#ck. This is the user's problem. Of course you can install the codecs because they're free, but don't people install them? Because no web site uses them! Why should you bother installing codecs is virtually no web site uses them? Do you understand? I haven't seen any computer user installing Vorbis codecs.

As I mentioned, a "mixed solution" would be better

You know you're wrong. How can a web site like YouTube double its disk space just for less than 1% of its user base? This doesn't make sense from a business standpoint. They chose Flash and they were right. If they had to offer an alternative, it could be .ogg, but definately not a proprietary patented format like MPEG that you are not allowed to use on free OSes in countries like the USA.

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