Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Nov 2006 23:05 UTC, submitted by SEJeff
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Mark Shuttleworth is trying to entice OpenSUSE developers to join Ubuntu. "Novell's decision to go to great lengths to circumvent the patent framework clearly articulated in the GPL has sent shockwaves through the community. If you are an OpenSUSE developer who is concerned about the long term consequences of this pact, you may be interested in some of the events happening next week as part of the Ubuntu Open Week."
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RE: Why is proprietary bad?
by nicolasb on Sat 25th Nov 2006 15:07 UTC in reply to "Why is proprietary bad?"
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It's not a case of "proprietary is bad", it's a case of "respect what the developers meant in their license", period.

We, free software users, aren't distributing illegal copies of windows or doing something that's not permitted in the EULA. Why should it be different with proprietary guys ? why should we let them do something that's NOT permitted in OUR license ?

"So *other* than the GPL arguement (which I believe is a red herring because I can't believe that many posters are lawyers or REALLY care - You're just jumping on the bandwagon)"

Most of the kernel developers thinks proprietary drivers stink and are NOT allowed by the GPL. What Linus Torvalds and others did, is, merely TOLERATE some drivers, openening a door to the closed drivers in the form of a "permitted" EXPORT_SYMBOL. They are in the process of shutting all of the kernel doors the proprietary drivers can access.
No driver can use the EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL without being itself GPL compatible. A driver that uses EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL must be derivative of the kernel. And as the kernel evolve, the developers are shifting more and more export symbol into EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL. In one or two years, all the USB subsystem will be EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL and usb ndiswrapper keys will be illegal, for example. They will have to do their own user-space usb drivers.

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